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What I want is a physical smartphone keyboard with nine keys. The one with three letters per key. I've never been faster and more accurate at typing on my phone
by drakonka 3y ago
What I want is a physical smartphone keyboard with nine keys. The one with three letters per key. I've never been faster and more accurate at typing on my phone than when these were a thing. I have pretty small hands, but even for me those full-size mini-keyboards are too imprecise to make them much better than a touch keyboard.
- huytersd 3y agoI don’t believe you. There’s no way you type faster with up to three taps needed per letter. What a disgusting monstrosity those things were.
- throwaway284534 3y agoLookup a stenographer’s keyboard. There is a learning curve but a chorded keyboard can exceed typical typing speeds. I imagine a T9 isn’t too different in this regard.
- tetraca 3y agoI use one. I don't think that it would be a good substitute for this use case. You can try and do steno on your phone with Dotterel but it's not a good experience - you're better off using a swiping keyboard. I've not used a T9 system in my life, but I can imagine that it's a system that would let you input anything just typing with your thumbs. To have a good time doing steno, you have to exercise all of your fingers on both your hands. That's not quite so nice on your phone.
- poyu 3y agoI could easily type blindly on those, the Nokia days
- ClaraForm 3y agoSeconded, I could text from within my pocket if needed.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoIf the claim is > I've never been faster and more accurate at typing on my phone than when these were a thing. It's easy to believe the accuracy claim (after all, you can feel the keys and there's fewer of them) while doubting the speed claim (since you have to perform 1-3x the number of keypresses to get the same result).
- phinnaeus 3y agoIt's one press per key, even if the letter you want is the third letter.
- yjftsjthsd-h 3y agoWell now I feel dumb. So it's like Minuum but way earlier. That's pretty cool, then, and I can definitely see how it would be faster.
- cpeterso 3y agoI loved Minuum's one-dimensional keyboard! The app disappeared from the iOS App Store, but looks like it still exists for Android in the Google Play Store (last updated in 2017). Did the developer go out of business? http://minuum.com/ http://minuum.com/
- spiderice 3y agoIt's especially easy to doubt it if you don't understand how t9 keyboards work :)
- SketchySeaBeast 3y agoYou didn't tap three time. You type out a few button that contained the letters for the first few letters of the word and then jabbed the "next" button until it gave you the right word. You could do a very long word with just a few keypresses.
- Mogzol 3y agoYou don't need three taps per letter, they had T9 [1], you only had to hit the key with the letter you wanted once, it predicted which letter you actually wanted, and worked surprisingly well. Once you got used to it you could type messages very quickly. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_(predictive_text) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T9_(predictive_text)
- freedomben 3y agoYes exactly. Also three taps per letter was worst case scenario. 1/3 of the letters were only one tap, and 1/3 were two taps.
- addandsubtract 3y agoAckshully, worse case is four taps for S or Z
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- yungporko 3y agoi'd say predictive text/t9 was way faster than any other phone input method ever for texting. nothing else comes close imo, not even blackberry keyboards (unless you need more fine control over capitalisation and punctuation and stuff e.g work emails)
- adamomada 3y agoI've used them all and THE fastest and most accurate entry on mobile by far was the psuedo-t9 keyboard on the Blackberry 7130. It was so good that it was frustrating to use the full keyboard on later Blackberry models. I wonder how many people actually experienced this keyboard in the world, perhaps only in the thousands?* Seems they had a name for it, SureType: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BlackBerry_products#First_SureType_models_(7100_series) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_BlackBerry_products#Fi... edit: ah I see it was used on other more popular models, too. Blackberry Pearl users should chime in!
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- porsager 3y agoIt doesn't even need to be physical - You should definitely give Type Nine a try ( https://typenineapp.com https://typenineapp.com ) - (disclaimer - I'm the author). There are some promo codes below so you can try it out: I've used this since 2014 when I made the first version, and I have yet to meet anyone typing faster with the stock iPhone qwerty keyboard. 7AMYNPKN63KY EMMHTLRA9399 Y4TPAXMJFHLL 4F3Y4JJ3RHME YREJF6L4TYE7 KWM9LRRXJEXW Y6JJRM99NYLM KRJXYPLE666L 43Y3EANXXW9F 9H99XY3FTT7L
- drakonka 3y agoThis looks great! I'd try it for sure if I was on iPhone. Do you have any plans to release this for Android as well at some point?
- spiderice 3y agoLooks awesome! I've missed t9 typing ever since I got my first smart phone. I just bought your keyboard. Question: When I try to type the word "a" (by pressing the ABC key then space) it defaults to "c". Will it relearn that I actually want to type "a" if I correct it enough? No idea why it's defaulting to "c".
- cpeterso 3y agoType Nine looks awesome! I just bought it. I've become increasingly frustrated with the default iPhone keyboard and looking for something more reliable and deterministic. Your onboarding tutorial was excellent. Much more thorough and polished than I expected. One issue: I advanced through all the tutorial screens until the end of the "manual" tutorial, but it wasn't obvious that was the end because there was no "next tutorial" or "quit tutorial" button after watching the "see how" animation. Feature request: include emojis in the suggestions like the iOS keyboard does: when you type "heart", it offers a suggestion to replace the word "heart" with the heart emoji. I see there's a T9 keyboard app (RetroBoard) for the Apple Watch. Have you looked into supporting Type Nine on Apple Watch?
- cpeterso 3y agoAlso, the suggestions seem to be confused by contractions when swiping, defaulting to "didnt" or "doesnt" even when the list of suggestions includes "didn't" or "doesn't". The lists of suggestions also include a lot of non-English or nonsense words (like “diwn” and “dizoo”), even though I'm using an English dictionary. The punctuation screen doesn’t include some punctuation available on the Apple keyboard like (parentheses). It would be nice if there was a second screen for less-common punctuation like how the emoji screen works.
- dabluecaboose 3y agoSounds like what you're looking for is the Qin F22 Pro[1] It's got a cult following among dumbphone and dumb-er-phone enthusiasts (think Lightphone, Punkt, etc) and has personally tempted me, but I'm put off by it being a Xiaomi product and haven't been able to decide if that hardware is safe enough for me to consider using after a ROM swap. [1] https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804386537909.html?gatewayAdapt=glo2usa4itemAdapt https://www.aliexpress.us/item/3256804386537909.html?gateway...