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It's not my job to teach you Sexism 101, so I'll be brief. It reinforces to the minority of women in tech that they will be routinely otherized by their colleag

by gilrain 15y ago

It's not my job to teach you Sexism 101, so I'll be brief. It reinforces to the minority of women in tech that they will be routinely otherized by their colleagues.

jsprinkles 15y ago
I'll ignore the pointless first statement just as you ignored several of my questions. If you don't want people questioning your opinions, don't share them publicly. How, exactly, does the choice of name minimize women? If a woman wrote 'clit', would you say the same thing? If a woman wrote 'dong', would we call her sexist? I understand the problem, but we're really throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. An effective solution to stamping out sexism in the workplace does not, in my opinion, hinge upon commanding people to ignore the presence of their sexual organs and doing so is, I think, more damaging. I don't want to live in a world where the mere mention of a body part launches an accusation of sexism. Neither do several women in tech that I know. Can we agree that in certain cases, we're being a touch too sensitive when it comes to fixing the problem, and we should really choose more important battles than accusing a dev of sexism due to the name of a one-off, pointless Twitter client that he's not billing as the next Tweetdeck? Fix sexism: Treat everybody equally, regardless of gender identity. Don't fix sexism: Pretend gender identity and, by extension, sex, doesn't exist.
- pudquick 15y ago
  With a universe of possible ASCII combinations to choose from - just because a particular iteration is witty, it does not automatically exclude it from offending one or more groups of people (whatever the reasoning). If you want widespread adoption of your tool, your best bet is to try to offend as few groups as possible.
  - jsprinkles 15y ago
    Agreed, but, that's not really an answer to the question I'm asking. I also don't think OP, the author of 'clit', intends for it to supplant Tweetdeck ... it seems like a one-off that he slapped a name on and threw on Github.
  - uptown 15y ago
    "If you want widespread adoption of your tool, your best bet is to try to offend as few groups as possible." I don't agree with this at all. Sometimes things are successful for the very fact that they're divisive. If your priority is to not offend anyone, you run the risk of being forgotten by everyone.
  - ricardobeat 15y ago
    It was just an exercise. Maybe I'll name the next one "xfwkl".
- talentdeficit 15y ago
  you can't fix sexism (or racism, or classism) by pretending they don't exist. this isn't the venue for a debate on the topic, but you can read up on male privilege if you'd like to know more
  - Mohnican 15y ago
    Male privilege is a myth.
Mohnican 15y ago
You are seriously delusional if you believe that naming an application after a biological name on the human body is "sexism". You really need to go back to "Sexism 101" if you've messed up this badly.

by gilrain 15y ago

It's not my job to teach you Sexism 101, so I'll be brief. It reinforces to the minority of women in tech that they will be routinely otherized by their colleagues.

jsprinkles 15y ago

I'll ignore the pointless first statement just as you ignored several of my questions. If you don't want people questioning your opinions, don't share them publicly. How, exactly, does the choice of name minimize women? If a woman wrote 'clit', would you say the same thing? If a woman wrote 'dong', would we call her sexist? I understand the problem, but we're really throwing the baby out with the bathwater here. An effective solution to stamping out sexism in the workplace does not, in my opinion, hinge upon commanding people to ignore the presence of their sexual organs and doing so is, I think, more damaging. I don't want to live in a world where the mere mention of a body part launches an accusation of sexism. Neither do several women in tech that I know. Can we agree that in certain cases, we're being a touch too sensitive when it comes to fixing the problem, and we should really choose more important battles than accusing a dev of sexism due to the name of a one-off, pointless Twitter client that he's not billing as the next Tweetdeck? Fix sexism: Treat everybody equally, regardless of gender identity. Don't fix sexism: Pretend gender identity and, by extension, sex, doesn't exist.

pudquick 15y ago
With a universe of possible ASCII combinations to choose from - just because a particular iteration is witty, it does not automatically exclude it from offending one or more groups of people (whatever the reasoning). If you want widespread adoption of your tool, your best bet is to try to offend as few groups as possible.
- jsprinkles 15y ago
  Agreed, but, that's not really an answer to the question I'm asking. I also don't think OP, the author of 'clit', intends for it to supplant Tweetdeck ... it seems like a one-off that he slapped a name on and threw on Github.
- uptown 15y ago
  "If you want widespread adoption of your tool, your best bet is to try to offend as few groups as possible." I don't agree with this at all. Sometimes things are successful for the very fact that they're divisive. If your priority is to not offend anyone, you run the risk of being forgotten by everyone.
- ricardobeat 15y ago
  It was just an exercise. Maybe I'll name the next one "xfwkl".
talentdeficit 15y ago
you can't fix sexism (or racism, or classism) by pretending they don't exist. this isn't the venue for a debate on the topic, but you can read up on male privilege if you'd like to know more
- Mohnican 15y ago
  Male privilege is a myth.

Mohnican 15y ago

You are seriously delusional if you believe that naming an application after a biological name on the human body is "sexism". You really need to go back to "Sexism 101" if you've messed up this badly.