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LWN's Guide to 2024

59 points by guiambros 3y ago

kelnos 3y ago
> Firefox will reverse its longtime decrease in browser share after gaining a strong impetus from Google's plan to switch to "Manifest V3" in the Chrome browser. That transition will make ad blockers harder, if not impossible, to implement in Chrome. That seems to be not the case? Like, there's a version of uBlock Origin that works with MV3. It's obviously not as featureful, but I understand it works decently well? And plenty of people use Safari, which only supports declarative content filtering, and are satisfied with that. I think the real bit is in one of the comments below the article[0]: no one really cares. The market has overwhelmingly spoken, and browsers like Chrome and Edge -- despite the fact that they are privacy disasters -- have won. I don't think ad-blocking getting a little bit weaker will change that. [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/956701/ https://lwn.net/Articles/956701/
- fomine3 3y ago
  Ironically, what we need for Firefox win is terrible ad tech that can't be blocked by Mv3/Safari.
- bananapub 3y ago
  > browsers like Chrome and Edge -- despite the fact that they are privacy disasters in what way do you feel that the browsers in and of themselves are "privacy disasters"?
  - diffeomorphism 3y ago
    What is the difference between the browsers and "the browsers in and of themselves"? That seems like a very overly specific qualifier.
    - bananapub 3y ago
      because an endless series of complaints about the optional sync services or whatever is extremely tedious.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    "Edge Browser Scores Worst in Test of Telemetry Privacy" - https://apple.slashdot.org/story/20/03/07/0054219/edge-browser-scores-worst-in-test-of-telemetry-privacy - https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-browser-in-terms-of-phoning-home/ - https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf - https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/03/17/1857224

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LWN's Guide to 2024

59 points by guiambros 3y ago

kelnos 3y ago
> Firefox will reverse its longtime decrease in browser share after gaining a strong impetus from Google's plan to switch to "Manifest V3" in the Chrome browser. That transition will make ad blockers harder, if not impossible, to implement in Chrome. That seems to be not the case? Like, there's a version of uBlock Origin that works with MV3. It's obviously not as featureful, but I understand it works decently well? And plenty of people use Safari, which only supports declarative content filtering, and are satisfied with that. I think the real bit is in one of the comments below the article[0]: no one really cares. The market has overwhelmingly spoken, and browsers like Chrome and Edge -- despite the fact that they are privacy disasters -- have won. I don't think ad-blocking getting a little bit weaker will change that. [0] https://lwn.net/Articles/956701/ https://lwn.net/Articles/956701/
- fomine3 3y ago
  Ironically, what we need for Firefox win is terrible ad tech that can't be blocked by Mv3/Safari.
- bananapub 3y ago
  > browsers like Chrome and Edge -- despite the fact that they are privacy disasters in what way do you feel that the browsers in and of themselves are "privacy disasters"?
  - diffeomorphism 3y ago
    What is the difference between the browsers and "the browsers in and of themselves"? That seems like a very overly specific qualifier.
    - bananapub 3y ago
      because an endless series of complaints about the optional sync services or whatever is extremely tedious.
  - yjftsjthsd-h 3y ago
    "Edge Browser Scores Worst in Test of Telemetry Privacy" - https://apple.slashdot.org/story/20/03/07/0054219/edge-browser-scores-worst-in-test-of-telemetry-privacy - https://www.zdnet.com/article/brave-deemed-most-private-browser-in-terms-of-phoning-home/ - https://www.scss.tcd.ie/Doug.Leith/pubs/browser_privacy.pdf - https://soylentnews.org/article.pl?sid=20/03/17/1857224