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You're not wrong, but more puzzling is that this is Zuckerberg's bunker. I mean, it takes a pretty dumb billionaire to not realize that when a real crisis hits

by Radim 3y ago

You're not wrong, but more puzzling is that this is Zuckerberg's bunker. I mean, it takes a pretty dumb billionaire to not realize that when a real crisis hits, you'll be a sitting duck (mostly for your own guards / security), in your fancy bunker or forest ranch. That's more of a naive plan for your run-of-the-mill rich guy, the lower echelon of "rich". Mere $100M-1Bs. I always thought Zuck-level money gives you better options, such as building your own loyal community. At least village-sized and quite diverse. Which is what you really need when the shit hits the fan. But maybe Zuck's building that too? And the bunker only a red herring, a hedge for minor temporary hiccups.

Nextgrid 3y ago
> I always thought Zuck-level money gives you better options, such as building your own loyal community Zuck-level money wouldn't matter in a situation where a bunker is needed though. In a post-money situation, Zuck doesn't have anything to offer compared to a random man, so nobody will have any reason to join and partake in his "village" plan. A really serious (or at least as close to serious as we can get when imagining apocalyptic scenarios) plan would be to stockpile goods/food/a means of production - those things are what's going to be valuable once shit hits the fan and might actually convince more people to join him.
- Radim 3y ago
  > Zuck-level money wouldn't matter in a situation where a bunker is needed We're entertaining actions the rich take in preparation for a societal meltdown: build a bunker vs build a community. They take them now (hence the article). Starting to build a bunker (or a community) in a post-apo world would indeed be a little too late for Mr. Zuckerberg & co. > A really serious plan would be to stockpile goods/food/a means of production You need loyal people first and foremost. Leadership and trust. Otherwise disloyal people (historically, your own guards / companions) take whatever you've stockpiled. Yours is that Grade B strategy I was talking about. Your "goods/food/a means of production" are only useful insofar other powers uphold the overarching social structures & rules. To the extent that premise is fulfilled, I'd call such meltdown only a minor temporary hiccup. Beyond that, your stockpile and remote fortress is not much use. You need loyal people.

by Radim 3y ago

Nextgrid 3y ago

> I always thought Zuck-level money gives you better options, such as building your own loyal community Zuck-level money wouldn't matter in a situation where a bunker is needed though. In a post-money situation, Zuck doesn't have anything to offer compared to a random man, so nobody will have any reason to join and partake in his "village" plan. A really serious (or at least as close to serious as we can get when imagining apocalyptic scenarios) plan would be to stockpile goods/food/a means of production - those things are what's going to be valuable once shit hits the fan and might actually convince more people to join him.

Radim 3y ago
> Zuck-level money wouldn't matter in a situation where a bunker is needed We're entertaining actions the rich take in preparation for a societal meltdown: build a bunker vs build a community. They take them now (hence the article). Starting to build a bunker (or a community) in a post-apo world would indeed be a little too late for Mr. Zuckerberg & co. > A really serious plan would be to stockpile goods/food/a means of production You need loyal people first and foremost. Leadership and trust. Otherwise disloyal people (historically, your own guards / companions) take whatever you've stockpiled. Yours is that Grade B strategy I was talking about. Your "goods/food/a means of production" are only useful insofar other powers uphold the overarching social structures & rules. To the extent that premise is fulfilled, I'd call such meltdown only a minor temporary hiccup. Beyond that, your stockpile and remote fortress is not much use. You need loyal people.