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Yesterday close to where I live there was a big queue that still isn't resolved in a winter storm (over 1000 cars got stuck). With a gas car, you can physically

Yesterday close to where I live there was a big queue that still isn't resolved in a winter storm (over 1000 cars got stuck). With a gas car, you can physically go and get gas and fill it up manually but an EV would run out of battery, die and would need to be towed. Maybe you live in a place where winter storms are not a reality but where I live the range isn't the problem it's the weather combined with the range. EVs range go down during winter and it's already worse, the risk of getting stuck in a snowstorm is thus higher. But yes, during summer and perfect road conditions an EV would be great. That is not the reality of my life though and that is just speaking about the range issues. I live on the country side as well and I need a car that can handle roads that are not in perfect condition. EVs are also generally sedans and wouldn't even fit my family while being a lot more expensive, adding the risk of freezing to death in the car is just making it a no-go for now.

matsemann 3y ago
Eh, this event in Skåne is atypical. I live close by a mountain pass in Norway during winter, where people often have to camp for the night to get across, and even there it literally never happened that people would hike for gas. It's such a freak event that no one here cares about that in their choice of car.
foobarian 3y ago
Presumably you would have started your day with a full charge, and be unlikely to run out even if stuck for a day. We switched to an EV last month and what surprised me the most was the mindset change required - you need to treat the car more like a phone that you keep topped off, instead of the gas car you tend to run down to near empty to maximize time between refills. The big hidden requirement is to have a powerful charging circuit at home, enough to charge the car overnight (60A/240V circuit for us). Without that the EV would be too cumbersome.
- averageRoyalty 3y ago
  I've been charging off a standard 10A/240v for years and have yet to have a problem. If you plug in at dinner and leave in the morning, that's 200km range overnight added. If you don't drive 200km that day, it rolls over.
Symbiote 3y ago
Every hour with the heater on but the car otherwise idle uses around 1-4km of range.
kalleboo 3y ago
Where I live we have typhoons. The last big one caused gasoline supplies to be disrupted (I believe the tankers could not approach to dock or something like that) and all the gas stations were out of gas for two or three days. The electrical grid didn't even blip so there was no problem for EV owners. ICE cars are really unsuited for places where the gasoline supply is not guaranteed perfect.

matsemann 3y ago

Eh, this event in Skåne is atypical. I live close by a mountain pass in Norway during winter, where people often have to camp for the night to get across, and even there it literally never happened that people would hike for gas. It's such a freak event that no one here cares about that in their choice of car.

foobarian 3y ago

Presumably you would have started your day with a full charge, and be unlikely to run out even if stuck for a day. We switched to an EV last month and what surprised me the most was the mindset change required - you need to treat the car more like a phone that you keep topped off, instead of the gas car you tend to run down to near empty to maximize time between refills. The big hidden requirement is to have a powerful charging circuit at home, enough to charge the car overnight (60A/240V circuit for us). Without that the EV would be too cumbersome.

averageRoyalty 3y ago
I've been charging off a standard 10A/240v for years and have yet to have a problem. If you plug in at dinner and leave in the morning, that's 200km range overnight added. If you don't drive 200km that day, it rolls over.

Symbiote 3y ago

Every hour with the heater on but the car otherwise idle uses around 1-4km of range.

kalleboo 3y ago

Where I live we have typhoons. The last big one caused gasoline supplies to be disrupted (I believe the tankers could not approach to dock or something like that) and all the gas stations were out of gas for two or three days. The electrical grid didn't even blip so there was no problem for EV owners. ICE cars are really unsuited for places where the gasoline supply is not guaranteed perfect.