>It has been called Kiev since forever Not forever, since Russia had been actively occupying the country, which is quite a long time, almost entire 20 century.

>It has been called Kiev since forever Not forever, since Russia had been actively occupying the country, which is quite a long time, almost entire 20 century. I believe it’s not the ‘Western states’ it’s when Ukrainians started to care more, especially since two years ago. The official renaming happen earlier than 2022, and there is no city of Kiev officially. It’s Kyiv. Btw for tone deaf hn-crowd it’s disrespectful to insist on calling it this way, especially given the context. Not mentioning the [flagged] and downvote bullshit, which also quite represents the hn-crowd’s side here. Not the first time I see similar topic gets banned.