> Javac itself is absolutely on the same order of magnitude speed as Go per loc Not really when it has to run on a cold JVM. And before it warms up, it’s alrea

> Javac itself is absolutely on the same order of magnitude speed as Go per loc Not really when it has to run on a cold JVM. And before it warms up, it’s already done. Then you are in territory of keeping the compiler process between the runs, but that is a memory hog and also not always realiable (gradle often decides to run a fresh daemon for whatever reason). So theoretically, in lab conditions yes, in practice no. > while rust is significantly slower Everybody repeats that but there is surprisingly little evidence in form of benchmarks. I can see rustic compiles over 50k Loc per second on average on my M2, which is roughly the same order of magnitude as Java. And checking without building is faster.