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Content will still continue to be recorded * . Econ 101: Content is now (has been for a while) non-rival - we can make identical copies, A's use of A's copy d

Content will still continue to be recorded * . Econ 101: Content is now (has been for a while) non-rival - we can make identical copies, A's use of A's copy does not deny B use of their copy. Content is also non-excludable - excluding access, there's no other description is what (some) publishers are trying to do. * And it played out for music just fine, after a while. The RIAA fought tooth and nail. I don't think Elsivier et al can fight harder than they did. Perhaps they'll try dirtier. Music is the harbinger of academic and book publishing. The faster this is realised, and they're really really show, the better off society will be. Do a spotify for books and papers, whatever. That much of the academic world lives in Zotero (or JabRef), LaTeX, (perhaps, I do) Zettlr and a motley crew of other grass-roots open source projects created for necessity, old-skool subscriptions and terrible terrible terrible library search engines suggests a field ripe for some picking. If content makes it onto a screen, it makes it into the wild.

luqtas 3y ago
Spotify for books? I thought Amazon Prime did that tho i don't like the idea at all, given the small slice streaming services pay their creators
- lkbm 3y ago
  You mean Kindle Unlimited? Yes, kind of, but it's a somewhat limited selection, in part because it has an exclusivity agreement such that you can be on Kindle Unlimited xor in public libraries[0]. [0] https://twitter.com/AnEriksenWife/status/1742405151116140907 https://twitter.com/AnEriksenWife/status/1742405151116140907
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- xerox13ster 3y ago
  Spotify recently started in on audiobooks, so we're getting there, unfortunately.
BobaFloutist 3y ago
I mean music is one example, movies and tv are the other branch it could follow.
- riffraff 3y ago
  and don't forget videogames
autoexec 3y ago
> And it played out for music just fine, after a while. The RIAA fought tooth and nail. I don't think Elsivier et al can fight harder than they did. Perhaps they'll try dirtier. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it played out "just fine". The RIAA and MPA have gained incredible powers that threaten us all in their fight to protect their profits and role as gatekeeper of what we're allowed to see/hear/publish. Circumventing DRM is a crime. The DMCA is routinely abused to block criticism and competition. There is an extortion racket where individuals (innocent or otherwise) are threatened to pay media companies or face legal action they can't possibly afford (this scheme doesn't go well for them when they target someone who can afford to fight back: https://torrentfreak.com/appeals-court-affirms-retired-police-officers-47777-win-against-copyright-troll-210323/ https://torrentfreak.com/appeals-court-affirms-retired-polic...). Companies are being forced to spend vast amounts of time, money, and other resources while working for free as copyright enforcement for the media industry. That same media industry now has the ability to force ISPs to instantly block access to whatever website they object to without any oversight in some countries, and they're pushing for that here in the US. Judges in US have already ruled that ISPs have to permanently disconnect the internet service of any customer if they receive an unspecified number of unproved accusations of infringement by the RIAA and they can face literal billions in fines if they fail to do so. The RIAA has been fighting against your freedoms for decades and they have been winning. The book publishers don't have to fight harder than the RIAA, the RIAA has already done much of their work for them. They just have to continue to nudge things in the direction they are already going.
T-A 3y ago
> And it played out for music just fine, after a while. The RIAA fought tooth and nail. And according to this guy, it won: https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/31/artificial-intelligence-ai-future-chatgpt-napster-internet/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/31/artificial-intelligence...

luqtas 3y ago

Spotify for books? I thought Amazon Prime did that tho i don't like the idea at all, given the small slice streaming services pay their creators

lkbm 3y ago
You mean Kindle Unlimited? Yes, kind of, but it's a somewhat limited selection, in part because it has an exclusivity agreement such that you can be on Kindle Unlimited xor in public libraries[0]. [0] https://twitter.com/AnEriksenWife/status/1742405151116140907 https://twitter.com/AnEriksenWife/status/1742405151116140907
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xerox13ster 3y ago
Spotify recently started in on audiobooks, so we're getting there, unfortunately.

BobaFloutist 3y ago

I mean music is one example, movies and tv are the other branch it could follow.

riffraff 3y ago
and don't forget videogames

autoexec 3y ago

> And it played out for music just fine, after a while. The RIAA fought tooth and nail. I don't think Elsivier et al can fight harder than they did. Perhaps they'll try dirtier. I wouldn't go so far as to say that it played out "just fine". The RIAA and MPA have gained incredible powers that threaten us all in their fight to protect their profits and role as gatekeeper of what we're allowed to see/hear/publish. Circumventing DRM is a crime. The DMCA is routinely abused to block criticism and competition. There is an extortion racket where individuals (innocent or otherwise) are threatened to pay media companies or face legal action they can't possibly afford (this scheme doesn't go well for them when they target someone who can afford to fight back: https://torrentfreak.com/appeals-court-affirms-retired-police-officers-47777-win-against-copyright-troll-210323/ https://torrentfreak.com/appeals-court-affirms-retired-polic...). Companies are being forced to spend vast amounts of time, money, and other resources while working for free as copyright enforcement for the media industry. That same media industry now has the ability to force ISPs to instantly block access to whatever website they object to without any oversight in some countries, and they're pushing for that here in the US. Judges in US have already ruled that ISPs have to permanently disconnect the internet service of any customer if they receive an unspecified number of unproved accusations of infringement by the RIAA and they can face literal billions in fines if they fail to do so. The RIAA has been fighting against your freedoms for decades and they have been winning. The book publishers don't have to fight harder than the RIAA, the RIAA has already done much of their work for them. They just have to continue to nudge things in the direction they are already going.

T-A 3y ago

> And it played out for music just fine, after a while. The RIAA fought tooth and nail. And according to this guy, it won: https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/31/artificial-intelligence-ai-future-chatgpt-napster-internet/ https://foreignpolicy.com/2023/12/31/artificial-intelligence...