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One mirror down in one country, meh. We can play this game of whack-a-mole forever. Copyright needs reform, this madness is wasting countless lifehours and ho

One mirror down in one country, meh. We can play this game of whack-a-mole forever. Copyright needs reform, this madness is wasting countless lifehours and holding back humanity as a whole. Copyright is broken and doesn’t fulfill its intended purpose anymore.

2Gkashmiri 3y ago
what what about the "Copyright" of walt disney who died in 1966. think of the poor descendants
- jjgreen 3y ago
  Won't someone think of the (geriatric) children?
- defrost 3y ago
  Hmmm, if his head had been frozen and cryogenically preserved would his copyright(s) have persisted . . . Do any of the cryo crowd on ice get their artistic rights back if they were ever successfully decanted? I suspect legally dead is dead wrt rights and I doubt anyone frozen to date is coming back .. but it's potboiler for when ... sometime in some future.
  - sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
    protip: you can’t cheat death and no one is coming back
    - HenryBemis 3y ago
      With people toying around with cloning. With Elon (and others) toying around with 'accessing the brain'. I wouldn't be surprised if in 100-200 years from now the "Altered Carbon" (nice SciFi series) becomes reality. (and now we know where Disney will be investing) :)
      - lupusreal 3y ago
        Having a clone seems a lot closer to having a child or sibling than cheating death. If somebody is survived by their identical twin, we don't say the dead one is still alive.
        jhbadger 3y ago
        In the Altered Carbon books/TV series, people can transfer their consciousness into new bodies to cheat death. That makes the issue of who is the same person more complicated than simple biological cloning.
  - HenryBemis 3y ago
    Don't give ideas to Disney (and its legal team) please.. next you know (especially with US elections coming soon) they are ruthless enough to go for it! Don't forget the Birthday Song fiasco by our friends in Warner/Chappell! (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/happy-birthday-settlement-arrives-lawsuit-847219/# https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hap...!)
- globular-toast 3y ago
  What if we extended copyright terms even more to encourage Disney to make more works back then?
gosub100 3y ago
Legal theories work entirely differently than technical strategies. Lawyers can spin this failure into political ammunition the next time SOPA or TPP (remember that one?) comes up: "we tried to use the existing laws to seize DNS records, but dontcha-know, they immediately circumvented it because not all DNS authorities work together. That alone could have prevented $X00 million in losses. Thats why we need a new law to ____, and ____, and stop ____. and we need all countries on board with this binding trade agreement."
- sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
  I'm not saying the futility of their efforts is the reason to change copyright law (although it should be possible to turn the argument your imagined lawyer comes up with around) - I’m saying what they are doing is futile, hurts more or less all of humanity AND copyright law is broken and does not serve its intended purpose anymore.
  - gosub100 3y ago
    It sounds like we both agree the countermeasures were futile. I guess my comment can be refactored to "The Law allows you a play-the-victim card, which you can't do in tech". I would reform your statement to "copyright doesn't serve its original intended purpose", but serves its de facto purpose just fine: keeping corporations raking in profits. they dont need to stop all countermeasures to accessing Anna, or whatever avenue pirates use. They just need to keep netflix and all other big name content providers/broadcasters/record labels paying their royalties (at the expense of artists and support staff) for as many decades as possible. If you look at it that way, copyright is working fine.

2Gkashmiri 3y ago

what what about the "Copyright" of walt disney who died in 1966. think of the poor descendants

jjgreen 3y ago
Won't someone think of the (geriatric) children?
defrost 3y ago
Hmmm, if his head had been frozen and cryogenically preserved would his copyright(s) have persisted . . . Do any of the cryo crowd on ice get their artistic rights back if they were ever successfully decanted? I suspect legally dead is dead wrt rights and I doubt anyone frozen to date is coming back .. but it's potboiler for when ... sometime in some future.
- sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
  protip: you can’t cheat death and no one is coming back
  - HenryBemis 3y ago
    With people toying around with cloning. With Elon (and others) toying around with 'accessing the brain'. I wouldn't be surprised if in 100-200 years from now the "Altered Carbon" (nice SciFi series) becomes reality. (and now we know where Disney will be investing) :)
    - lupusreal 3y ago
      Having a clone seems a lot closer to having a child or sibling than cheating death. If somebody is survived by their identical twin, we don't say the dead one is still alive.
      - jhbadger 3y ago
        In the Altered Carbon books/TV series, people can transfer their consciousness into new bodies to cheat death. That makes the issue of who is the same person more complicated than simple biological cloning.
- HenryBemis 3y ago
  Don't give ideas to Disney (and its legal team) please.. next you know (especially with US elections coming soon) they are ruthless enough to go for it! Don't forget the Birthday Song fiasco by our friends in Warner/Chappell! (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/happy-birthday-settlement-arrives-lawsuit-847219/# https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/business-news/hap...!)
globular-toast 3y ago
What if we extended copyright terms even more to encourage Disney to make more works back then?

gosub100 3y ago

Legal theories work entirely differently than technical strategies. Lawyers can spin this failure into political ammunition the next time SOPA or TPP (remember that one?) comes up: "we tried to use the existing laws to seize DNS records, but dontcha-know, they immediately circumvented it because not all DNS authorities work together. That alone could have prevented $X00 million in losses. Thats why we need a new law to ____, and ____, and stop ____. and we need all countries on board with this binding trade agreement."

sjfjsjdjwvwvc 3y ago
I'm not saying the futility of their efforts is the reason to change copyright law (although it should be possible to turn the argument your imagined lawyer comes up with around) - I’m saying what they are doing is futile, hurts more or less all of humanity AND copyright law is broken and does not serve its intended purpose anymore.
- gosub100 3y ago
  It sounds like we both agree the countermeasures were futile. I guess my comment can be refactored to "The Law allows you a play-the-victim card, which you can't do in tech". I would reform your statement to "copyright doesn't serve its original intended purpose", but serves its de facto purpose just fine: keeping corporations raking in profits. they dont need to stop all countermeasures to accessing Anna, or whatever avenue pirates use. They just need to keep netflix and all other big name content providers/broadcasters/record labels paying their royalties (at the expense of artists and support staff) for as many decades as possible. If you look at it that way, copyright is working fine.