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> I refuse to live my life as if these things aren't important to me. I refuse to average my entire life style down to my median day. My median day is boring.
by Affric 3y ago
> I refuse to live my life as if these things aren't important to me. I refuse to average my entire life style down to my median day. My median day is boring.
Well said. And I think that you cut to the heart of what the electric vehicle advocates are doing wrong. They are telling us the only times we actually enjoy being in the car and travelling are the ones we should give up.
I don’t use a car in the city. An electric car can’t yet take me home in 2 days without perfect conditions and a tailored root.
- mrjin 3y agoAs an ordinary driver, I cannot care less whether a car is electric or not. All I want is *A* car can cover all most if not all my needs around transport. Obviously those electric car advocate took what we *want* as what we *need*.
- eecc 3y agoOh those duplicitous monsters! Unlike those sincere marketing folks that spend their lives manipulating the multitudes over what their needs and wants are!
- Dalewyn 3y agoI wholeheartedly agree and am also going to bring another thing up that ICE cars have but EVs don't regarding range: Peace of mind. When we're driving an ICE car, we simply don't care about the range. We don't think about it; it's not a concern. That peace of mind is fucking priceless, especially if one's life is already busy with far more pressing concerns. In an EV we have to constantly keep an eye on that battery level, on that Miles Remaining counter. We have to micromanage the A/C and other things that consume power. That is mentally draining, and for what? It's something we don't have to care about in an ICE car. I drove an EV, I constantly worried about the range. Range was constantly on my mind, even when I wasn't driving the fucking thing. It was mentally fucking exhausting. Sincerely: No thanks. I'll happily pay the $50~70 bucks at the gas station to fill up my car in a few minutes and be at peace. It easily beats paying almost nothing charging overnight and then worrying if I can come back home when I start another day.
- Mashimo 3y agoDon't EV cars calculate all that for you and tell you where to stop to charge up again?
- bartvk 3y agoOnly Tesla does that.
- Mashimo 3y agoThat seems weird. Edit: Just looked up Porsche and they have it too. They call it "Intelligent range optimiser". Can't be asked to check more brands.
- moooo99 3y agoThat is false. This integration didn’t exist when the EV versions were just electrified versions of ICE cars. This changed with the upcoming of car by traditional automakers that were designed to be an BEV first. I’ve used the route planning in a Kia EV as well as a VW EV without any issues. You can plan your route with charging points, select the desired remaining capacity, select the kind of charging you want, etc. AFAIK Porsche offers the same features too
- magicalhippo 3y agoMy Renault Megane E-tech will tell me the battery % when I reach my destination, and will ask me to add a charging stop on the way if I won't make it. My previous BMW i3 did the same.
- WesolyKubeczek 3y agoI’m afraid these calculations are more tuned to sweetheart deals the car manufacturer has with the infrastructure owner than to my best interests.
- brianwawok 3y agoTesla will 100% route to Tesla chargers, which is what you want to use right now. Maybe in 5 years it will be worth thinking about other brands.
- eecc 3y agoI’m Italian, emigrated to the Netherlands and happily car-free. Ever since Covid happened we rent one for 1 month a year in summer and drive to my in-laws, and further down in central Italy. Overall clocking ~3.5-4k km. We rented all types, ICE, hybrid and BEV with no noticeable difference: while with the Model Y we had to stop N times to fast-charges and a snack, with the ICE we’d stop anyway to rest, drink or use the toilet even on a half-tank. Range anxiety is a thing, but it’s over after a couple days. It’s just FUD, BEVs are ready
- zarkenfrood 3y agoNetherlands and mainland Europe is hardly indicative of the types of road trips you would experience in Africa, Americas, Australia
- Ringz 3y agoAnd now you have identified the real problem which has to be solved. And it possible at least in the USA.
- eecc 3y agoYeah whatever. It’s where we burn several millions of barrels of gasoline per year, stuff that should be kept in the ground instead. Frankly the amount of Nirvana fallacies in this thread is indicative of the coping stress the petrol-heads are suffering. https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/gasoline_consumption/Eurozone/ https://www.theglobaleconomy.com/rankings/gasoline_consumpti...
- smegger001 3y agoEven if we swapped every ice vehicle for electric and had the charging infrastructure in place, we wouldnt leave all that oil in the ground. Its just to useful, it would be used for plastics, chemical feedstocks, fertilizers, insecticides, pharmaceuticals, cosmetics, etc... All those hydrogen carbon bond we dont have to pay the energy for are just to danm useful and valuable for so many industries to leave in the ground.
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- boudin 3y agoThere's an alternative though, at least for those who need an everyday car with low range and do big trips in rare occasions: renting a car when needed.
- pjmlp 3y agoWhen my car gets damaged, even if it is a 1mm strach, I get to decide when to repair it, if at all. With a rented car I need to take a full damage insurance just in case a tiny scratch is visible.
- ta1243 3y agoSo it's part of the cost. Most people travelling long distance fly and rent a car at the far end. Would you pay an extra $500 a month to avoid having to spend $1000 renting a car twice a year? Probably not, so the question is how much more does it cost to not rent the long distance car. And I've never rented a car where a 1mm scratch would require fixing, nor a 1cm scratch
- pjmlp 3y agoYou're lucky, I have, several times in Germany, where some dealers come with a ruler measuring them, plus km limits per day.
- ta1243 3y agoEnterprise's guidelines is Bumper Damage IS: Dent/scratch larger than 6” (size of the damage evaluator), or hole/tear of any size Exterior Body Damage (Non-Bumper) IS: dent/scratch larger than 2” circle, or hole/tear of any size Glass Damage IS: Any ‘Star’/crack I suspect companies like Europcar, Hertz etc would be similar.
- boudin 3y agoEven that, in term in term of cost it's not much. And what's the likelyhood of scratching the car? (It never happened to me with rentals)