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(Founder of windmill.dev, the closest alternative to Airplane and we are OSS) Congrats on the acquisition Airplane team. You were a strong inspiration for us,
by rubenfiszel 3y ago
(Founder of windmill.dev, the closest alternative to Airplane and we are OSS)
Congrats on the acquisition Airplane team. You were a strong inspiration for us, a precursor and set a high-quality bar for pro-code developer platforms. I have nothing but respect for the Airplane team and we probably wouldn't exist in our current form without your competition.
We are ready to migrate all Airplane customers and the migration would be very smooth as many of Airplane concepts map 1:1 to our own concepts. If you need urgent migration, ruben@windmill.dev
One customer, nocd, migrated hundreds of scheduled scripts and workflows in just a few weeks and with only minor changes.
Our platform being fully open-source, you will never be at the risk of us sunsetting anything since you can fully self-host it (it is not an hybrid deployment model like Airplane where the Control plane are in the cloud). We are used by thousands of businesses including a few F500 at scale and can send reference over emails.
We are a smaller team, have raised reasonably and are close to break-even. As an open-source product, I keep in mind to resist the urge of raising too aggressively so we can keep control of our destiny and never betray our open-source principles of transparency and fair pricing.
(note: we have an example repo of the folder layout one can use to be backed by git: https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill-sync-example https://github.com/windmill-labs/windmill-sync-example, it's not all that different from airplane. See our CLI guide here: https://www.windmill.dev/docs/advanced/cli https://www.windmill.dev/docs/advanced/cli)
- wolverine876 3y ago[flagged]
- satvikpendem 3y agoIt is fine to market on HN, as we have Show HN already, but in this case, it is still acceptable as they are offering a specific solution to the problem defined in the post, namely that Airplane customers must move off a shutdown product.
- wolverine876 3y agoShow HN is different. Why don't I see other marketing like the GGP?
- satvikpendem 3y agoYou often do on threads like these, with people posting about their related projects. As long as people are respectful and relevant, not spammy, the HN crowd generally sees it positively.
- wolverine876 3y agoHmmm ... I must have overlooked them. I don't recall seeing something like it before. Or maybe you and I mean different things.
- elbear 3y agoTo offer another data point, I've also seen comments promoting alternatives on threads about acquisitions. I find that the ethos of this community in general is more open to self-promotion.
- acjohnson55 3y agoIn my experience, it's quite common, and it's accepted as long as people do it respectfully. Sometimes, there's pushback, especially if someone seems like they're denigrating other options. In this case, it feels particularly appropriate. I'm an Airplane user, and I came to this article specifically hoping to see what options there are to migrate to.
- reaperman 3y agoThis seems both appropriate and helpful to me. If I was an airplane customer I'd love to know what my alternatives are now that it's being shut down.
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agoYour self hosted pricing seems difficult to understand. Why limit SSO users? Secondly, prices include per vcpu ? Is it like microsft style per CPU pricing ?
- rubenfiszel 3y agoWe limit SSO users in the pro versions vs enterprise because the pro version is only meant for small teams. Prices include vCPU so that it is linear to your compute cost. Windmill is also used at scale for high-throughput and heavy jobs on enormous clusters but with very few users. We approximate that the compute part of the pricing will be approximately the same as your ec2 cost for your workers.
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agoso if i host on my own server i still have to pay you per cpu?
- rubenfiszel 3y agoIf you want the enterprise edition, then yes
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agoopen source self hosted?
- Sephr 3y agoI'm confused. You claimed in your first comment that your platform is "fully open-source". How is your enterprise edition "fully open source" if I have to pay to enable certain features when self-hosting?
- 2Gkashmiri 3y agoi dont think their enterprise edition is open source. they only say open source on the first "free and open source" pricing table, presumably rest of enterprsise editions aren't
- 4ggr0 3y agoWe use windmill.dev since a couple of months now and are really happy. Development is very transparent as you can join their discord and give them feedback. We've had multiple moments where things were modified, adjusted or improved in <1h after we mentioned something. Seems like a great team. +1.