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Twitter accounts with the most community notes

45 points by bundie 3y ago

grepfru_it 3y ago
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- egberts1 3y ago
  By your glaringly omission of numerous left-wings, leftists, and alt-lefts Twitter with community notes, you wouldn't be one of those as well, wouldn't you? After all, the integrity of journalism appears to be dead.
  - rvz 3y ago
    There you go. Seems to me that community notes is doing its job given that everyone is being fact-checked by the users.
  - willsmith72 3y ago
    You mean this leaderboard has deliberately had left-leaning authors removed? Or that there are an equal amount there of left and right? It would be great to see evidence either way, I'm sure the creator of the leaderboard could do it by some kind of sentiment analysis
    - curtisblaine 3y ago
      That's why we need reproducibility, or at least some info on how this list was put together. You don't need sentiment analysis, the creator could just have removed accounts manually from the list.
electrondood 3y ago
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vitorgrs 3y ago
Not "shocked" with Choquei being the first. If you guys only knew what happened in the latest weeks. A girl committed suicide because of a fake news they made. It's worse how they manage multiple pages. Poptime in the list? Also managed by the same group (Mynd8).
- dr_kiszonka 3y ago
  Thanks for the context. I have never heard of any of these accounts. I hope at least the Illuminatibot is more of a satirical one.
- barbre 3y ago
  They are putting the same text that is unrelated to the tweet under each tweet. This seems more like brigading or vandalism than a proper way of using the community notes feature.
dr__mario 3y ago
I'd love to see the correlation with popularity (followers, tweet views...), and with the number of tweets, and then some measure to try to to remove those effects to really get the most toxic accounts (i.e., community notes per total tweet views).
daveoc64 3y ago
Just clicking on some of these at random, it's depressing the garbage that people are exposed to by accounts that have somehow gained their trust. A lot of it isn't even political, it's just lazy clickbait.
coolandsmartrr 3y ago
Interesting! Among the top, I see some Japanese accounts as well as Elon Musk himself. I wonder if this website's developer paid the hefty fees to use the Twitter API.
curtisblaine 3y ago
How were these stats collected? We need reproducibility, otherwise it could just be a biased list.
Whoppertime 3y ago
Does anyone have additional context on the Japanese accounts being highlighted?
SilverBirch 3y ago
I've never really understood the point of community notes. If the idea is to put a social/economic cost on lying it clearly doesn't function. The same people just continually get community noted, it doesn't harm their popularity of position. So it doesn't function to improve the platform in any way. It feels a lot to me like the lift close button. Idiots get a kick out of smashing that button but we all know it doesn't do anything. It just sits there in the place of something that should actually incentivize better contributions to the discourse. Take Ian Miles Cheong for example, his latest community notes is just a straight up baselessly slandering a war hero. Did he delete the tweet? Did he retract or anything? Has he faced any consequences whatsoever for his lie? Do we think for a second that his followers read and beleive the correction? No, in fact he's part of X's monetization programme, you can pay him $5 a month to lie to you about dead Ukrainians. Yet here we are smashing that door close button. Meanwhile there's the other side of it which is like President Biden tweets out some statistic on the labor force and the community note is like "Well yes this is literally correct and we're not disputing it, but the mob in charge of this tool doesn't like Biden so we're going to attach an opposing political message under every one of his tweets". Now that actually does disincentivize Biden from using the platform. So what are we even doing here? If you control a decent sized mob on twitter you can attach your political messaging to every tweet of your political opponents? That sounds like a great dynamic from driving one side of the political divide off the platform entirely.
- RamblingCTO 3y ago
  I think it's an important step in spreading fake news anyhow. People not familiar with the topic just stumbling upon this tweet will also see a correction via the community notes. That's the important part. Not putting cost on lying.
- EchoDesertRobot 3y ago
  From https://communitynotes.twitter.com/guide/en/about/introduction https://communitynotes.twitter.com/guide/en/about/introducti... > Community Notes doesn't work by majority rules. To identify notes that are helpful to a wide range of people, notes require agreement between contributors who have sometimes disagreed in their past ratings. This helps prevent one-sided ratings. More info can be found there. The algorithm itself is open-source so you can audit it if you want. The raw data itself is also available for download so it can be scrutinized.

45 points by bundie 3y ago

grepfru_it 3y ago

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egberts1 3y ago
By your glaringly omission of numerous left-wings, leftists, and alt-lefts Twitter with community notes, you wouldn't be one of those as well, wouldn't you? After all, the integrity of journalism appears to be dead.
- rvz 3y ago
  There you go. Seems to me that community notes is doing its job given that everyone is being fact-checked by the users.
- willsmith72 3y ago
  You mean this leaderboard has deliberately had left-leaning authors removed? Or that there are an equal amount there of left and right? It would be great to see evidence either way, I'm sure the creator of the leaderboard could do it by some kind of sentiment analysis
  - curtisblaine 3y ago
    That's why we need reproducibility, or at least some info on how this list was put together. You don't need sentiment analysis, the creator could just have removed accounts manually from the list.

electrondood 3y ago

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vitorgrs 3y ago

Not "shocked" with Choquei being the first. If you guys only knew what happened in the latest weeks. A girl committed suicide because of a fake news they made. It's worse how they manage multiple pages. Poptime in the list? Also managed by the same group (Mynd8).

dr_kiszonka 3y ago
Thanks for the context. I have never heard of any of these accounts. I hope at least the Illuminatibot is more of a satirical one.
barbre 3y ago
They are putting the same text that is unrelated to the tweet under each tweet. This seems more like brigading or vandalism than a proper way of using the community notes feature.

dr__mario 3y ago

I'd love to see the correlation with popularity (followers, tweet views...), and with the number of tweets, and then some measure to try to to remove those effects to really get the most toxic accounts (i.e., community notes per total tweet views).

daveoc64 3y ago

Just clicking on some of these at random, it's depressing the garbage that people are exposed to by accounts that have somehow gained their trust. A lot of it isn't even political, it's just lazy clickbait.

coolandsmartrr 3y ago

Interesting! Among the top, I see some Japanese accounts as well as Elon Musk himself. I wonder if this website's developer paid the hefty fees to use the Twitter API.

curtisblaine 3y ago

How were these stats collected? We need reproducibility, otherwise it could just be a biased list.

Whoppertime 3y ago

Does anyone have additional context on the Japanese accounts being highlighted?

SilverBirch 3y ago

I've never really understood the point of community notes. If the idea is to put a social/economic cost on lying it clearly doesn't function. The same people just continually get community noted, it doesn't harm their popularity of position. So it doesn't function to improve the platform in any way. It feels a lot to me like the lift close button. Idiots get a kick out of smashing that button but we all know it doesn't do anything. It just sits there in the place of something that should actually incentivize better contributions to the discourse. Take Ian Miles Cheong for example, his latest community notes is just a straight up baselessly slandering a war hero. Did he delete the tweet? Did he retract or anything? Has he faced any consequences whatsoever for his lie? Do we think for a second that his followers read and beleive the correction? No, in fact he's part of X's monetization programme, you can pay him $5 a month to lie to you about dead Ukrainians. Yet here we are smashing that door close button. Meanwhile there's the other side of it which is like President Biden tweets out some statistic on the labor force and the community note is like "Well yes this is literally correct and we're not disputing it, but the mob in charge of this tool doesn't like Biden so we're going to attach an opposing political message under every one of his tweets". Now that actually does disincentivize Biden from using the platform. So what are we even doing here? If you control a decent sized mob on twitter you can attach your political messaging to every tweet of your political opponents? That sounds like a great dynamic from driving one side of the political divide off the platform entirely.

RamblingCTO 3y ago
I think it's an important step in spreading fake news anyhow. People not familiar with the topic just stumbling upon this tweet will also see a correction via the community notes. That's the important part. Not putting cost on lying.
EchoDesertRobot 3y ago
From https://communitynotes.twitter.com/guide/en/about/introduction https://communitynotes.twitter.com/guide/en/about/introducti... > Community Notes doesn't work by majority rules. To identify notes that are helpful to a wide range of people, notes require agreement between contributors who have sometimes disagreed in their past ratings. This helps prevent one-sided ratings. More info can be found there. The algorithm itself is open-source so you can audit it if you want. The raw data itself is also available for download so it can be scrutinized.