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We don't usually hear about plagiarism accusations in the news for weeks at a time. There's a particular reason these scandals came up at all and became a major

We don't usually hear about plagiarism accusations in the news for weeks at a time. There's a particular reason these scandals came up at all and became a major focus for the national news.

prepend 3y ago
Right. But I think it stemmed from her incompetence in her testimony. She seemed really stupid and false in her answers. Then people examined her and found other dumb things. My point is that it’s not like they said “let’s get Dr. Gay.” But that attention was focused on an idiot and it led to their firing. Any idiot would suffer the same fate if they gave those answers. No one really cares about her intrinsically.
- acdha 3y ago
  > But I think it stemmed from her incompetence in her testimony. She seemed really stupid and false in her answers. You mean the testimony compelled as part of that campaign? I wasn’t impressed with her performance but that circus was set up trying to create a gotcha situation where the same people who have spent decades telling us that all positions should be welcomed on campuses would portray anything less than a complete restriction on speech as the universities embracing antisemitism. The guy gunning for the Penn president had been waiting for years to get an opportunity like this. Gay was trying to thread a line between the gotcha framing and what a legal free speech policy allows, and fumbled into the trap. Yes, she handled it poorly but that doesn’t excuse the successful campaign to create the situation which made it look worse than it actually was or the massive national media effort to make this the issue everyone is talking about rather than something important.
- KenArrari 3y ago
  > My point is that it’s not like they said “let’s get Dr. Gay.” Actually, that's exactly what they did. They were very open about it. Christopher Ruffo was very open about it. They wanted to get her fired for her Israel content, so they went hunting to find an excuse.
- lazystar 3y ago
  > Any idiot would suffer the same fate if they gave those answers. No one really cares about her intrinsically. In the same vein, one would expect an idiot to misattribute the criticism of their aptitude and view it as a personal attack. Only an idiot would say the things Gay said in congress; only an idiot would interpret a critical take on her leadership abilities as racism or sexism.

We don't usually hear about plagiarism accusations in the news for weeks at a time. There's a particular reason these scandals came up at all and became a major focus for the national news.

prepend 3y ago

Right. But I think it stemmed from her incompetence in her testimony. She seemed really stupid and false in her answers. Then people examined her and found other dumb things. My point is that it’s not like they said “let’s get Dr. Gay.” But that attention was focused on an idiot and it led to their firing. Any idiot would suffer the same fate if they gave those answers. No one really cares about her intrinsically.

acdha 3y ago
> But I think it stemmed from her incompetence in her testimony. She seemed really stupid and false in her answers. You mean the testimony compelled as part of that campaign? I wasn’t impressed with her performance but that circus was set up trying to create a gotcha situation where the same people who have spent decades telling us that all positions should be welcomed on campuses would portray anything less than a complete restriction on speech as the universities embracing antisemitism. The guy gunning for the Penn president had been waiting for years to get an opportunity like this. Gay was trying to thread a line between the gotcha framing and what a legal free speech policy allows, and fumbled into the trap. Yes, she handled it poorly but that doesn’t excuse the successful campaign to create the situation which made it look worse than it actually was or the massive national media effort to make this the issue everyone is talking about rather than something important.
KenArrari 3y ago
> My point is that it’s not like they said “let’s get Dr. Gay.” Actually, that's exactly what they did. They were very open about it. Christopher Ruffo was very open about it. They wanted to get her fired for her Israel content, so they went hunting to find an excuse.
lazystar 3y ago
> Any idiot would suffer the same fate if they gave those answers. No one really cares about her intrinsically. In the same vein, one would expect an idiot to misattribute the criticism of their aptitude and view it as a personal attack. Only an idiot would say the things Gay said in congress; only an idiot would interpret a critical take on her leadership abilities as racism or sexism.