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1. Yes, the only relevant point 2. is only an issue for people who don't actually own an EV. With Tesla's charging network (which is getting adopted by _nearly

1. Yes, the only relevant point 2. is only an issue for people who don't actually own an EV. With Tesla's charging network (which is getting adopted by _nearly_ all EV manufacturers), _nearly_ everyone will have no range issue at all. The exception is rural America and pockets of poor coverage, but that is a minority.

thehappypm 3y ago
I have a Tesla, and I still have an issue with the range. I’m going skiing this weekend and having to build three charging sessions into my trip doesn’t sound very fun, plus cold weather kills the range, so I’m gonna take a friends gas car instead.
- asadotzler 3y ago
  we have a car that's fun to drive up and down the mountain because we live on the other side of the mountain from civilization. when we want to do a long drive on straight roads, we rent a land yacht that's much more enjoyable. this isn't a hardship at all. why do people who only need to take one or two long trips a year get the least bit worried? buy the cheap EV with enough range for your day to day and rent something fun for vacations with the money you save by not buying the extended range ev. this isn't a marriage. it's a transportation purchase. be flexible, get where you need to go, and have fun doing it. electric plus vacation rental is the way to go.
  - thehappypm 3y ago
    “Rent something fun for vacations” is a hassle, isn’t it? It’s a step backwards from a gas car which can do everything an EV does, but with (essentially) infinite range.
    - asadotzler 3y ago
      Not for many, I suspect. I mean, in my lifetime I've moved half a dozen times, but I don't own a moving van. I've hauled tons of sod and sand and concrete across the years but I don't own a super duty truck. For occasional use vehicles, I rent and that way I can use the top of the line and task appropriate vehicles. It's an optimization problem. If the value of a jack of all trades outweighs the value of few specialty tools for you, cool. Others will make different trade offs .
SoftTalker 3y ago
It's just not true. My town of 80k population has one Supercharger center with 8 charging stations. The next nearest one is over 50 miles away. That's not at all practical for someone who can't charge at home.
- thehappypm 3y ago
  Why can’t that person charge at home? Really anyone can charge at home, except for people who don’t have parking (aka live in cities), and any city is going to have good supercharger infrastructure .
  - SoftTalker 3y ago
    Probably half the people here don't have a garage. They live in apartments or park on the street.

thehappypm 3y ago

I have a Tesla, and I still have an issue with the range. I’m going skiing this weekend and having to build three charging sessions into my trip doesn’t sound very fun, plus cold weather kills the range, so I’m gonna take a friends gas car instead.

asadotzler 3y ago
we have a car that's fun to drive up and down the mountain because we live on the other side of the mountain from civilization. when we want to do a long drive on straight roads, we rent a land yacht that's much more enjoyable. this isn't a hardship at all. why do people who only need to take one or two long trips a year get the least bit worried? buy the cheap EV with enough range for your day to day and rent something fun for vacations with the money you save by not buying the extended range ev. this isn't a marriage. it's a transportation purchase. be flexible, get where you need to go, and have fun doing it. electric plus vacation rental is the way to go.
- thehappypm 3y ago
  “Rent something fun for vacations” is a hassle, isn’t it? It’s a step backwards from a gas car which can do everything an EV does, but with (essentially) infinite range.
  - asadotzler 3y ago
    Not for many, I suspect. I mean, in my lifetime I've moved half a dozen times, but I don't own a moving van. I've hauled tons of sod and sand and concrete across the years but I don't own a super duty truck. For occasional use vehicles, I rent and that way I can use the top of the line and task appropriate vehicles. It's an optimization problem. If the value of a jack of all trades outweighs the value of few specialty tools for you, cool. Others will make different trade offs .

SoftTalker 3y ago

It's just not true. My town of 80k population has one Supercharger center with 8 charging stations. The next nearest one is over 50 miles away. That's not at all practical for someone who can't charge at home.

thehappypm 3y ago
Why can’t that person charge at home? Really anyone can charge at home, except for people who don’t have parking (aka live in cities), and any city is going to have good supercharger infrastructure .
- SoftTalker 3y ago
  Probably half the people here don't have a garage. They live in apartments or park on the street.