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Went to high school in Louisiana. School doors opened at 6:40am, First bell at 7:20am. Was absolutely brutal. Worked fast food until 11pm most school nights. Th

Went to high school in Louisiana. School doors opened at 6:40am, First bell at 7:20am. Was absolutely brutal. Worked fast food until 11pm most school nights. The chronic fatigue was miserable. On top of that the majority of my school was on free/reduced lunch (myself included). So you end up with an understaffed school full of exhausted, hungry teenagers that are still expected to give 100% to their schoolwork.

tesdinger 3y ago
This would be illegal in Germany, where it is legally required that there are 11 hours of resting period between work days, or work and school. So students and workers can not work later than 9pm if they start at 8pm on the next day.
- op00to 3y ago
  There were similar laws in my US state 30 years ago when they would have applied to me. I was limited in the hours, and needed a permit from my school to be employed at all. Oh wow, it’s still a thing: https://www.nj.gov/labor/youngworkers/find-a-job/working-papers/faqs.shtml https://www.nj.gov/labor/youngworkers/find-a-job/working-pap...
wharvle 3y ago
7:35 start time here. Worked 4-7 most nights, age 15 on. Only saw briefly saw the (low-in-the-sky) sun during a ~30 minute gap between those things, 5 days a week, for months on end (Winter). Took me years to get over a kind of situation-induced SAD that I'm pretty sure was caused by that. Like, 15 or so years. More broadly, how many folks have nightmares about school for years into adulthood? Mine didn't stop until my mid-30s—they were practically the only nightmares I still had, and were frequent. And my experience in high school was relatively good! High school's... kinda horrible, as practiced. Being cooped up in bad lighting during Winter with at least a few total assholes you can't escape and the school can't kick out unless they get really bad, and add hormones to the mix. Work expectations and judgement harsher and far less flexible than anything I've experienced in the "real world". No wonder people have nightmares. I'd drop a job with those conditions as soon as I could find another, if not sooner.

tesdinger 3y ago

This would be illegal in Germany, where it is legally required that there are 11 hours of resting period between work days, or work and school. So students and workers can not work later than 9pm if they start at 8pm on the next day.

op00to 3y ago
There were similar laws in my US state 30 years ago when they would have applied to me. I was limited in the hours, and needed a permit from my school to be employed at all. Oh wow, it’s still a thing: https://www.nj.gov/labor/youngworkers/find-a-job/working-papers/faqs.shtml https://www.nj.gov/labor/youngworkers/find-a-job/working-pap...

wharvle 3y ago

7:35 start time here. Worked 4-7 most nights, age 15 on. Only saw briefly saw the (low-in-the-sky) sun during a ~30 minute gap between those things, 5 days a week, for months on end (Winter). Took me years to get over a kind of situation-induced SAD that I'm pretty sure was caused by that. Like, 15 or so years. More broadly, how many folks have nightmares about school for years into adulthood? Mine didn't stop until my mid-30s—they were practically the only nightmares I still had, and were frequent. And my experience in high school was relatively good! High school's... kinda horrible, as practiced. Being cooped up in bad lighting during Winter with at least a few total assholes you can't escape and the school can't kick out unless they get really bad, and add hormones to the mix. Work expectations and judgement harsher and far less flexible than anything I've experienced in the "real world". No wonder people have nightmares. I'd drop a job with those conditions as soon as I could find another, if not sooner.