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The last time I checked Consumer Reports, Porsche was actually on the list of reliable used cars.

gumballindie 3y ago
Until panels start falling off and various axles break under pressure. In Europe they wouldnt even make a recall until years after they’ve been sued in the US. In the UK ranks as the least reliable brand: https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/porsche-named-least-reliable-car-brand/ https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/porsche-named-least-reliable-... A common trend with german carmakers in recent years. Not good for Europe as a whole.
- dubcanada 3y ago
  Do you have any details on what Warrentywise uses for their data? The data seems to suggest all of the "cheap" cars are more reliable then all of the "expensive" cars. Which is just wrong, if anything it's a spread of cheap/expensive on top and cheap/expensive on bottom. That data seems to imply there is perhaps another reason for the rankings then what is to be assumed.
  - gumballindie 3y ago
    They do include the cost to repair among other things, which means that only do they break often, they also cost a lot to fix. Cheap brands on the other hand when they do break down are either fixed by the manufacturer for free or dont break as often. German cars are infamous for the high number of defects that their manufacturers wont issue recalls for. Therefore the ranking is accurate.
    - lacksconfidence 3y ago
      It still feels a bit off. I expect an expensive car to have expensive repairs. When looking at the cost of a repair I would perhaps consider the cost as a proportion of the MSRP, or resale value, not the raw cost.
  - mikeryan 3y ago
    Warrantywise does aftermarket extended warranties in the UK. I can't say how but it seems to me that may have an influence on their data.
eagerpace 3y ago
cant repair modern ones diy anymore with everything requiring dealer programming. Not that it’s unique, but I understand they’re on the bleeding edge of what all parts require dealers to replace.
- ok_dad 3y ago
  If you see what the GT3 RS can do then you’ll understand why a regular Joe can’t maintain it. They’re basically a GT3 race car with a little less downforce (it has DRS too) and (barely) street tires. Everything is made of carbon fiber and special alloys. All new sports cars are going that way, computers are an irreversible need for performance today. Not just for the engine, but for brakes, traction control, suspension control, etc.

Until panels start falling off and various axles break under pressure. In Europe they wouldnt even make a recall until years after they’ve been sued in the US. In the UK ranks as the least reliable brand: https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/porsche-named-least-reliable-car-brand/ https://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/porsche-named-least-reliable-... A common trend with german carmakers in recent years. Not good for Europe as a whole.

dubcanada 3y ago
Do you have any details on what Warrentywise uses for their data? The data seems to suggest all of the "cheap" cars are more reliable then all of the "expensive" cars. Which is just wrong, if anything it's a spread of cheap/expensive on top and cheap/expensive on bottom. That data seems to imply there is perhaps another reason for the rankings then what is to be assumed.
- gumballindie 3y ago
  They do include the cost to repair among other things, which means that only do they break often, they also cost a lot to fix. Cheap brands on the other hand when they do break down are either fixed by the manufacturer for free or dont break as often. German cars are infamous for the high number of defects that their manufacturers wont issue recalls for. Therefore the ranking is accurate.
  - lacksconfidence 3y ago
    It still feels a bit off. I expect an expensive car to have expensive repairs. When looking at the cost of a repair I would perhaps consider the cost as a proportion of the MSRP, or resale value, not the raw cost.
- mikeryan 3y ago
  Warrantywise does aftermarket extended warranties in the UK. I can't say how but it seems to me that may have an influence on their data.

eagerpace 3y ago

cant repair modern ones diy anymore with everything requiring dealer programming. Not that it’s unique, but I understand they’re on the bleeding edge of what all parts require dealers to replace.

ok_dad 3y ago
If you see what the GT3 RS can do then you’ll understand why a regular Joe can’t maintain it. They’re basically a GT3 race car with a little less downforce (it has DRS too) and (barely) street tires. Everything is made of carbon fiber and special alloys. All new sports cars are going that way, computers are an irreversible need for performance today. Not just for the engine, but for brakes, traction control, suspension control, etc.