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I don't have much helpful to add, but I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault and they got fired/black

I don't have much helpful to add, but I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault and they got fired/blacklisted for a few years. Subsequently, they did IT contract work behind the scenes with small contractors, kept in touch with his professional network, was super helpful to the rest of us, and after serious concerns and much debate, got back into his prior career with a new employer. I don't even know how, because normally a felony would be a no-hire, but he pulled it off, likely because he was so helpful and giving to his professional network throughout this mess.

helsinki 3y ago
Felony charges are a lot different from felony convictions. Was he convicted?
- giantg2 3y ago
  It's insane that charges that get dismissed are used against people. Maybe for some position of power or sensitive work like police or classified work dependingon the actual details, but there's no reason innocent people should be discriminated against.
  - justsomeoldguy 3y ago
    you sound reasonable. the problem is, not everyone is all the time. people make emotional decisions that aren't even supported by laws or ethics. Some people are just mean, some people just want to see the world burn.
- runjake 3y ago
  He was charged and convicted on multiple felonies. Thanks for asking, that's an important distinction. There's a good chance he's on HN and may pop into this thread.
  - justsomeoldguy 3y ago
    I was charged and convicted with assault with a deadly weapon. I shot someone. he accepted my apology, I was high af and didn't even know what was going on. and I have no history of violence, nor after. but. welp. it was considered domestic violence cuz that someone was my husband. and california wouldn't let him drop the charges. they don't give you that, they just run with it. its a messed up story. he was devastated. and so angry he drove to the cop station after I was sentenced and flew over the counter and attacked the very first PD officer he saw. She, and a few other officers, beat the living dogshit out of him. made him look like a racoon. broke her wrist in the process-- and so that's felony assault on a police officer WITH GBI. They stuck him one floor above mine. I felt bad, now worse. Dude was a nerd, had no criminal history. he did that for me? I didn't deserve it. in any event, we divorced while I was in prison. he got permission to see me there towards the end. took a lot of paperwork, but he did it. so we could have closure in person. got the warden to sign off. had to say a million times over that no, he was not brainwashed. no, I didn't shoot him because I love him. it was nothing like that. only reason I got off parole was I had no restitution. and the only reason there was no restitution was because my husband remained adament that I wasn't all there. an advanced medical directive was in effect, he was actually my legal caretaker at that point. it was a lot of paperwork, notarized even. annnd it counted for nothing. there were no medical bills to pay-- his insurance covered it, there was nothing but the court costs. He had a clean entry and exit, thank god. else it would have been murder huh. went through his chest, he spent a week in the hospital. made a full recovery. officials reached out to him one last time and asked, and he said something like "you fucks took my husband. eat shit and die." He said similar when it came to getting a statement from him. Unfortunately someone was shot, and I did shoot him, so ... there was no question on if I had committed the crime or not, even without a statement. the powder was on my hands. I completed a 9 year sentence, all 85% of it. today it would never happen. the judge had no ability not to send me to prison, or even run the charges concurrent. he straight up said he did not want to do it, but his hands were tied. there were three, assault with a firearm, great bodily injury, and domestic violence. because a gun had been involved. minimum mandatory sentencing. no concurrent, must be consecutive. They gave me the low, a 3/3/3, so 9 years. They wanted to send me to a drug program, but it wasn't in the cards. Not guilty by reason of insanity is a horrible idea in california, it is basically a life sentence that you will spend at least a decade, or two, proving you're sane. and maybe never able to do it. think Terminator, Sarah Conner, in the psych ward. I was advised not to go down that route. and california had already gotten rid of the diminished capacity law-- you know the dude who used the twinkie defense? yeah he really messed it up for everyone doing that. I did my time, I didn't let my time do me. I wrote and published a sci fi trilogy, which is really hard to do in prison, but all you have is time. I like who I am now, and what I've turned into. I worked well at various companies, but ... I wish that was still the case. I'm proud to be 14 years clean now. I'll never go back on that stuff.
- 98codes 3y ago
  The gap in the Linkedin history says yes, and how cagey OP is being with what they did (there was definitely physical violence involved, just not battery), I suspect they would absolutely mention it if they weren't convicted.
  - jstarfish 3y ago
    Speculating, but it sounds about right for someone who might have threatened to kill a cop and resisted arrest while publicly intoxicated. Spitting on government employees and attempted bribery are frequent additions to these types of charges. Public intoxication can dig yourself into a really deep hole, really quickly. Don't do it.
justsomeoldguy 3y ago
I've had four great tech jobs since I paroled ... I'm old. You want windows 3.11 for workgroups, or you want server 2019. you want *nix, you want macos, I'm into it all. kubernetes, virtualization, hell I used to run vmware GSX for companies before ESX existed. My resume is very strong, and my skills are good. and.... it isn't enough. not so far. it's going to take someone who knows from the start, somehow. I've made companies a lot of money in my lifetime. I worked at places like exodus communications, netapp, netcom, @home. Some old names people prolly recognize. I specialize in storage, you want ceph? Ceph and I get along great. My last cluster was over 2 PB and it started out just 150TB. It's simple in the end, I work for companies, solve their problems, make us all money. Should be simple right?
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- jfray2k22 3y ago
  hello fellow excommie!
  - justsomeoldguy 3y ago
    haha. nc1895 here. I was hella late to the game. but you may even remember me, I ran abuse@netcom.com and ix.netcom.com. I am keman-the-klueless, anti-spammers once called me. I went to abuse@home.net after ICG bought us out. Then after @home went under, I went on to abuse@exodus.net. Back in the spam fighting days before adaptive intelligent filters, it was all hard work of reading email headers, tracing things back, finding the user, and closing out their account.
lostlogin 3y ago
> I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault That’s one hell of a bad night.
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- rpmisms 3y ago
  I mean, I carry a gun regularly, and if I ever have to use it, it's 50/50 whether only not I'll be charged. Actually much less likely in my locale, but if I'm out of town...
- smsm42 3y ago
  Some places are more willing than others to charge anybody using or brandishing a firearm, regardless of the circumstances, and sometimes those exactly are the states which charge very aggressively for it. Heck, I've heard of people just being charged for driving into a wrong state with a loaded magazine laying somewhere in their trunk. Not all laws everywhere make sense.

helsinki 3y ago

Felony charges are a lot different from felony convictions. Was he convicted?

giantg2 3y ago
It's insane that charges that get dismissed are used against people. Maybe for some position of power or sensitive work like police or classified work dependingon the actual details, but there's no reason innocent people should be discriminated against.
- justsomeoldguy 3y ago
  you sound reasonable. the problem is, not everyone is all the time. people make emotional decisions that aren't even supported by laws or ethics. Some people are just mean, some people just want to see the world burn.
runjake 3y ago
He was charged and convicted on multiple felonies. Thanks for asking, that's an important distinction. There's a good chance he's on HN and may pop into this thread.
- justsomeoldguy 3y ago
  I was charged and convicted with assault with a deadly weapon. I shot someone. he accepted my apology, I was high af and didn't even know what was going on. and I have no history of violence, nor after. but. welp. it was considered domestic violence cuz that someone was my husband. and california wouldn't let him drop the charges. they don't give you that, they just run with it. its a messed up story. he was devastated. and so angry he drove to the cop station after I was sentenced and flew over the counter and attacked the very first PD officer he saw. She, and a few other officers, beat the living dogshit out of him. made him look like a racoon. broke her wrist in the process-- and so that's felony assault on a police officer WITH GBI. They stuck him one floor above mine. I felt bad, now worse. Dude was a nerd, had no criminal history. he did that for me? I didn't deserve it. in any event, we divorced while I was in prison. he got permission to see me there towards the end. took a lot of paperwork, but he did it. so we could have closure in person. got the warden to sign off. had to say a million times over that no, he was not brainwashed. no, I didn't shoot him because I love him. it was nothing like that. only reason I got off parole was I had no restitution. and the only reason there was no restitution was because my husband remained adament that I wasn't all there. an advanced medical directive was in effect, he was actually my legal caretaker at that point. it was a lot of paperwork, notarized even. annnd it counted for nothing. there were no medical bills to pay-- his insurance covered it, there was nothing but the court costs. He had a clean entry and exit, thank god. else it would have been murder huh. went through his chest, he spent a week in the hospital. made a full recovery. officials reached out to him one last time and asked, and he said something like "you fucks took my husband. eat shit and die." He said similar when it came to getting a statement from him. Unfortunately someone was shot, and I did shoot him, so ... there was no question on if I had committed the crime or not, even without a statement. the powder was on my hands. I completed a 9 year sentence, all 85% of it. today it would never happen. the judge had no ability not to send me to prison, or even run the charges concurrent. he straight up said he did not want to do it, but his hands were tied. there were three, assault with a firearm, great bodily injury, and domestic violence. because a gun had been involved. minimum mandatory sentencing. no concurrent, must be consecutive. They gave me the low, a 3/3/3, so 9 years. They wanted to send me to a drug program, but it wasn't in the cards. Not guilty by reason of insanity is a horrible idea in california, it is basically a life sentence that you will spend at least a decade, or two, proving you're sane. and maybe never able to do it. think Terminator, Sarah Conner, in the psych ward. I was advised not to go down that route. and california had already gotten rid of the diminished capacity law-- you know the dude who used the twinkie defense? yeah he really messed it up for everyone doing that. I did my time, I didn't let my time do me. I wrote and published a sci fi trilogy, which is really hard to do in prison, but all you have is time. I like who I am now, and what I've turned into. I worked well at various companies, but ... I wish that was still the case. I'm proud to be 14 years clean now. I'll never go back on that stuff.
98codes 3y ago
The gap in the Linkedin history says yes, and how cagey OP is being with what they did (there was definitely physical violence involved, just not battery), I suspect they would absolutely mention it if they weren't convicted.
- jstarfish 3y ago
  Speculating, but it sounds about right for someone who might have threatened to kill a cop and resisted arrest while publicly intoxicated. Spitting on government employees and attempted bribery are frequent additions to these types of charges. Public intoxication can dig yourself into a really deep hole, really quickly. Don't do it.

justsomeoldguy 3y ago

I've had four great tech jobs since I paroled ... I'm old. You want windows 3.11 for workgroups, or you want server 2019. you want *nix, you want macos, I'm into it all. kubernetes, virtualization, hell I used to run vmware GSX for companies before ESX existed. My resume is very strong, and my skills are good. and.... it isn't enough. not so far. it's going to take someone who knows from the start, somehow. I've made companies a lot of money in my lifetime. I worked at places like exodus communications, netapp, netcom, @home. Some old names people prolly recognize. I specialize in storage, you want ceph? Ceph and I get along great. My last cluster was over 2 PB and it started out just 150TB. It's simple in the end, I work for companies, solve their problems, make us all money. Should be simple right?

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jfray2k22 3y ago
hello fellow excommie!
- justsomeoldguy 3y ago
  haha. nc1895 here. I was hella late to the game. but you may even remember me, I ran abuse@netcom.com and ix.netcom.com. I am keman-the-klueless, anti-spammers once called me. I went to abuse@home.net after ICG bought us out. Then after @home went under, I went on to abuse@exodus.net. Back in the spam fighting days before adaptive intelligent filters, it was all hard work of reading email headers, tracing things back, finding the user, and closing out their account.

lostlogin 3y ago

> I had a colleague who had a bad night, acquired some felony charges for a firearm-related assault That’s one hell of a bad night.

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rpmisms 3y ago
I mean, I carry a gun regularly, and if I ever have to use it, it's 50/50 whether only not I'll be charged. Actually much less likely in my locale, but if I'm out of town...
smsm42 3y ago
Some places are more willing than others to charge anybody using or brandishing a firearm, regardless of the circumstances, and sometimes those exactly are the states which charge very aggressively for it. Heck, I've heard of people just being charged for driving into a wrong state with a loaded magazine laying somewhere in their trunk. Not all laws everywhere make sense.