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Tim Cook is a pretty good CEO. Satya Nadella has turned Microsoft around from the Ballmer days.
by pwthornton 3y ago
Tim Cook is a pretty good CEO. Satya Nadella has turned Microsoft around from the Ballmer days.
- sjwhevvvvvsj 3y ago(Paging Sundar…)
- Kon-Peki 3y agoSundar got his MBA from the same place that gave an MBA to the guy that managed to run a successful casino into bankruptcy…
- el-dude-arino 3y agoSundar is also a McKinsey dipshit.
- rchaud 3y agoAnd Bezos was a finance bro at DE Shaw. Are you expecting corporate CEOs to come from a monastery?
- lotsofpulp 3y agoA DE Shaw hire has a much, much higher probability of being technically inclined than a McKinsey hire. You probably are not going to find the “finance bros” you are thinking of at DE Shaw.
- alephnerd 3y agoSundar Pichai was a Materials Scientist at Applied Materials before he did his MBA. He did his MS in Materials Science at Stanford. Also, plenty of STEM background people join McK later in their careers (especially in the electronics space) because there is plenty of demand for Strategy and Management Consulting in the industrial world, as LDPs aren't as popular anymore
- rchaud 3y agoA surprising number of people think that MBAs have never had a job before or that STEM people don't do MBAs. They think it's like regular grad school where you can enroll straight out of college.
- alephnerd 3y agoYep. I also find it funny how people attribute Accounting, Corporate Finance, and RevOps to "MBAs".
- rchaud 3y agoThat's the reflexive "blame corporate!" response. Layoffs? Blame MBAs! But spare a thought for the CEO who must have been strong-armed into this by you know who!
- sjwhevvvvvsj 3y agoSundar lets the SVPs report directly to Ruth while he looks in the mirror at repeats “AI is the new fire” until he’s ready for the next soft focus interview.
- lotsofpulp 3y agoI am sure McKinsey has lots of technically inclined people too, but if we consider back when Bezos was working at DE Shaw (early 1990s), almost all of the (few) employees must have been highly technical (it is considered the first quant fund), while McKinsey's headcount was already 2,900 when Bezos left DE Shaw. Today it is 2,500 people versus 45,000 people, and I would guess it is still probably true that a greater proportion of DE Shaw is technical than McKinsey.
- alephnerd 3y agoFirst, how do you define "technical"? An Petroleum Engineer, Materials Engineer, Industrial Engineer, Chemical Engineer, Biopharmaceuticals Researcher, etc will always have the option to work at an MBB, as those industries heavily use McK to help with their own businesses. On top of that, McK hiring even at the undergrad level skews STEM. If you attend a feeder school like MIT, Stanford, or Berkeley, it's EECS/Applied Math/Physics majors that land Associate interviews, because management is much more technical now. McKinsey literally has recruiters devoted only to candidates from Berkeley and UMich Engineering for strategy roles. It isn't the 1980s anymore when some random schmoe with an Econ or Business degree can land an MBB role anymore.
- sjwhevvvvvsj 3y agoHey now, Stanford also produced a lot of corporate fraud, they deserve credit across the board for their contribution!
- FredPret 3y agoCook’s an engineer with an MBA
- ramesh31 3y ago>Cook’s an engineer with an MBA And Nadella went to MIT (India), with an MSCS from U. Wisc. I'm sensing a pattern here...
- leosanchez 3y agoMIT-> Manipal Institute of Technology for those who are confused.
- alephnerd 3y agoUWisc means UWisc Madison. He attended UWisc Milwaukee (which makes his climb up the ladder even more impressive). He also did the Part time MBA at UChicago Booth while at Microsoft
- Zigurd 3y agoTim Cook is also a brilliant strategist at using Apple's strength with suppliers. For example, Apple has first dibs on TSMC's cutting edge process. But even gambles he lost, like making huge sapphire crystals for screens and maybe even phone bodies, are daring and innovative.
- fuzzfactor 3y agoCook also actually worked with Jobs, which means more than any academic degree.