Guess it depends on your role yeah. I'm familiar with React etc but I only use it when required, it's all so clumsy, constantly changing, and their best new ide

Guess it depends on your role yeah. I'm familiar with React etc but I only use it when required, it's all so clumsy, constantly changing, and their best new ideas have existed in the ruby/python/php communities for decades. I still really limit my JS to just improving the client-side UI/UX.