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I am curious as to when people consider the golden age of truth ?

by Baldbvrhunter 3y ago

dotcoma 3y ago
Also curious to know if reading El País is sufficient to shield one from ‘misinformation’.
- aeraea 3y ago
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  - h0nd 3y ago
    No wonder their focus is solely on social media ignoring legacy media.
    - dotcoma 3y ago
      They are part of The Trust Project https://elpais.com/estaticos/que-es-the-trust-project/ https://elpais.com/estaticos/que-es-the-trust-project/ I am sure that in their opinion this is more than enough to prove that they are serious and trustworthy.
AtlasBarfed 3y ago
About ten years ago I sensed that the internet between unpoisoned social networks, Wikipedia, and other sources of genuine information hitting the masses before the MBAs became internet aware, was the golden age. People were overall generally more aware of things than they used to be. But that has sharply regressed. Coincidentally or not, it seemed to start the slide with the iPhone. Perhaps it was the true entry of the masses without the barrier of the desktop PC.
- Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
  If we even take that as true, then that's just a few people on the internet. it's like "all media was honest before the AI on internet came along and ruined everything"
- bryan_w 3y ago
  Ah yes, 10 years ago, when the TEA partiers ran rampant and a disturbing large group of people somehow, believed the president at the time was born in Kenya. Quite the golden age of truth and authenticity.
  - Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
    In 2008, Andy Martin, Illiois (R) candidate filed a lawsuit against the state of Hawaii calling for the public release of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate, which followed on from his claims since 2004. Obama had previously posted an image of his short-form birth certificate online, but Martin's lawsuit sought a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate. The Hawaii Supreme Court dismissed Martin's lawsuit. Martin was not involved in The Tea Party. Clinton chief strategist, Mark Penn's 2012 strategy memo suggested how the campaign might take advantage of this. "Every speech should contain the line that you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century," he advised Clinton. "... Let's explicitly own 'American' in our programs, the speeches and the values. He doesn't." If you want to go to the source of the "misinformation" then try Obama's publisher - Dystel & Goderich agency and his author's bio. Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients. "You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."
MathMonkeyMan 3y ago
Always the past, I imagine.
Ekaros 3y ago
Must have been few first votes in Athens...

I am curious as to when people consider the golden age of truth ?

dotcoma 3y ago

Also curious to know if reading El País is sufficient to shield one from ‘misinformation’.

aeraea 3y ago
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- h0nd 3y ago
  No wonder their focus is solely on social media ignoring legacy media.
  - dotcoma 3y ago
    They are part of The Trust Project https://elpais.com/estaticos/que-es-the-trust-project/ https://elpais.com/estaticos/que-es-the-trust-project/ I am sure that in their opinion this is more than enough to prove that they are serious and trustworthy.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

About ten years ago I sensed that the internet between unpoisoned social networks, Wikipedia, and other sources of genuine information hitting the masses before the MBAs became internet aware, was the golden age. People were overall generally more aware of things than they used to be. But that has sharply regressed. Coincidentally or not, it seemed to start the slide with the iPhone. Perhaps it was the true entry of the masses without the barrier of the desktop PC.

Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
If we even take that as true, then that's just a few people on the internet. it's like "all media was honest before the AI on internet came along and ruined everything"
bryan_w 3y ago
Ah yes, 10 years ago, when the TEA partiers ran rampant and a disturbing large group of people somehow, believed the president at the time was born in Kenya. Quite the golden age of truth and authenticity.
- Baldbvrhunter 3y ago
  In 2008, Andy Martin, Illiois (R) candidate filed a lawsuit against the state of Hawaii calling for the public release of Barack Obama's long-form birth certificate, which followed on from his claims since 2004. Obama had previously posted an image of his short-form birth certificate online, but Martin's lawsuit sought a copy of Obama's long-form birth certificate. The Hawaii Supreme Court dismissed Martin's lawsuit. Martin was not involved in The Tea Party. Clinton chief strategist, Mark Penn's 2012 strategy memo suggested how the campaign might take advantage of this. "Every speech should contain the line that you were born in the middle of America to the middle class in the middle of the last century," he advised Clinton. "... Let's explicitly own 'American' in our programs, the speeches and the values. He doesn't." If you want to go to the source of the "misinformation" then try Obama's publisher - Dystel & Goderich agency and his author's bio. Miriam Goderich edited the text of the bio; she is now a partner at the Dystel & Goderich agency, which lists Obama as one of its current clients. "You're undoubtedly aware of the brouhaha stirred up by Breitbart about the erroneous statement in a client list Acton & Dystel published in 1991 (for circulation within the publishing industry only) that Barack Obama was born in Kenya. This was nothing more than a fact checking error by me — an agency assistant at the time," Goderich wrote. "There was never any information given to us by Obama in any of his correspondence or other communications suggesting in any way that he was born in Kenya and not Hawaii. I hope you can communicate to your readers that this was a simple mistake and nothing more."

MathMonkeyMan 3y ago

Always the past, I imagine.

Ekaros 3y ago

Must have been few first votes in Athens...