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Not likely, the definition of addiction requires harm. Resistance training has profound wholistic benefits. It's possible that someone can neglect professional

by toolz 3y ago

Not likely, the definition of addiction requires harm. Resistance training has profound wholistic benefits. It's possible that someone can neglect professional or personal relationships to the point of harm, but I don't think there's any reason to assume that's the case here. My point is simply that just because you do something compulsively, does not make that thing an addiction. E.g. breathing is compulsive, but it's not an addiction.

AtlasBarfed 3y ago
See: people working out even when injured, people who exercise to be as thin as possible. People doing steroids and other drugs for performance or appearance. These are edge cases. They exist, and endorphins are using the addiction biological framework. Regardless, exercise people.
- toolz 3y ago
  Feel free to ignore this if it feels like nit-picking, but I'm particularly sensitive to "addiction" language. We don't have a biological framework for addiction, we have a framework for building routines and healthy habits. The system is incredibly beneficial and we'd do ourselves a great disservice not utilizing that system to improve our health and lifestyle. Again, I'm fairly sure we all understand what you're saying, but I find there's a great deal of cumulative power in the language/framing we use day-in and day-out and I believe my characterization isn't just optimistic, but more accurate.
  - red-iron-pine 3y ago
    > We don't have a biological framework for addiction yeah, we do. and it involves neurotransmitters. "addiction" may not be the right word in this (workout) context, but it's a well established concept in other contexts.
    - toolz 3y ago
      No, we don't - we have a biological framework for creating motivation for certain behaviors. This is a well established concept. Motivated behaviors (or habits) are the framework, addiction is when we misuse that framework. We're not born with some defect that gives us negative evolutionary fitness. That makes no sense at all.

by toolz 3y ago

AtlasBarfed 3y ago

See: people working out even when injured, people who exercise to be as thin as possible. People doing steroids and other drugs for performance or appearance. These are edge cases. They exist, and endorphins are using the addiction biological framework. Regardless, exercise people.

toolz 3y ago
Feel free to ignore this if it feels like nit-picking, but I'm particularly sensitive to "addiction" language. We don't have a biological framework for addiction, we have a framework for building routines and healthy habits. The system is incredibly beneficial and we'd do ourselves a great disservice not utilizing that system to improve our health and lifestyle. Again, I'm fairly sure we all understand what you're saying, but I find there's a great deal of cumulative power in the language/framing we use day-in and day-out and I believe my characterization isn't just optimistic, but more accurate.
- red-iron-pine 3y ago
  > We don't have a biological framework for addiction yeah, we do. and it involves neurotransmitters. "addiction" may not be the right word in this (workout) context, but it's a well established concept in other contexts.
  - toolz 3y ago
    No, we don't - we have a biological framework for creating motivation for certain behaviors. This is a well established concept. Motivated behaviors (or habits) are the framework, addiction is when we misuse that framework. We're not born with some defect that gives us negative evolutionary fitness. That makes no sense at all.