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Yes, I'm only bringing up small boats in the context of a post from someone up thread from the "other side of the canal" (sic). A lot of boats are escorted from

Yes, I'm only bringing up small boats in the context of a post from someone up thread from the "other side of the canal" (sic). A lot of boats are escorted from French waters by the French navy, whilst they wait for a collection by RNLI. Numbers are down, but I'd be interested to see what that is attributed to, once weather effects etc are taken into account. You also say 5,284 people were "denied and sent away". Were they actually physically deported from the UK? And I agree, Net Migration is out of control and needs to come down severely.

dijit 3y ago
I can definitely understand your point, because there's a lot of press right now that is repeating this line. Your first claim is that it was RNLI (which is a charity btw) taxiing migrants, which has some decent counterfactual evidence citing first-party sources: https://theferret.scot/claim-nigel-farage-about-rnli-taxi-service-false/ https://theferret.scot/claim-nigel-farage-about-rnli-taxi-se... The second claim is that it's the french escorting people across the channel, there was only one incident that invoked this which was the french navy chasing a small boat into english waters under low visibility, the ire was caught because the french naval vessel requested that a British ferry make way for the naval vessel which cleared a path for the dinghy full of migrants. - as usual, a sprinkle of truth and Farage will parrot it on GB news and the murdoch media will fan the flames as much as possible. Hate peddlers the lot of them, and all in an attempt to make you scared, scared and fearful so you vote on emotion and not on information. And it's working.
- gadders 3y ago
  Yes, that reputable source, "The Ferret". You can literally go to ship tracking websites and see the RNLI boats travel into the channel, and see photographic evidence (despite the efforts of channel ports to block this) of the people (the vast majority of whom are young men from safe countries) being unloaded and put on coaches to accommodation. You can also see the French warships making no effort to stop the boats and making sure they safely leave French waters. Please stop gaslighting.
  - dijit 3y ago
    you are right that you can see this, what is evident however is that you have not been watching it and are preaching something you believe but have never actually confirmed. The ferret doesn’t have to be reputable since it’s referencing first party data sources directly and linking to them, something The Evening Standard and The Sun fail to do often. And certainly something Farage has never done.
    - gadders 3y ago
      I've seen the photos from the people that have taken them.
  - dijit 3y ago
    I checked (extensively) the background of “The Ferret” and indeed it is as close as you will ever get to independently funded investigative journalism citing first party statistics. So, you could not possibly be more wrong when disregarding it. Stop the gaslighting.

dijit 3y ago

I can definitely understand your point, because there's a lot of press right now that is repeating this line. Your first claim is that it was RNLI (which is a charity btw) taxiing migrants, which has some decent counterfactual evidence citing first-party sources: https://theferret.scot/claim-nigel-farage-about-rnli-taxi-service-false/ https://theferret.scot/claim-nigel-farage-about-rnli-taxi-se... The second claim is that it's the french escorting people across the channel, there was only one incident that invoked this which was the french navy chasing a small boat into english waters under low visibility, the ire was caught because the french naval vessel requested that a British ferry make way for the naval vessel which cleared a path for the dinghy full of migrants. - as usual, a sprinkle of truth and Farage will parrot it on GB news and the murdoch media will fan the flames as much as possible. Hate peddlers the lot of them, and all in an attempt to make you scared, scared and fearful so you vote on emotion and not on information. And it's working.

gadders 3y ago
Yes, that reputable source, "The Ferret". You can literally go to ship tracking websites and see the RNLI boats travel into the channel, and see photographic evidence (despite the efforts of channel ports to block this) of the people (the vast majority of whom are young men from safe countries) being unloaded and put on coaches to accommodation. You can also see the French warships making no effort to stop the boats and making sure they safely leave French waters. Please stop gaslighting.
- dijit 3y ago
  you are right that you can see this, what is evident however is that you have not been watching it and are preaching something you believe but have never actually confirmed. The ferret doesn’t have to be reputable since it’s referencing first party data sources directly and linking to them, something The Evening Standard and The Sun fail to do often. And certainly something Farage has never done.
  - gadders 3y ago
    I've seen the photos from the people that have taken them.
- dijit 3y ago
  I checked (extensively) the background of “The Ferret” and indeed it is as close as you will ever get to independently funded investigative journalism citing first party statistics. So, you could not possibly be more wrong when disregarding it. Stop the gaslighting.