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Ice broke last year … this may not be the one, nor maybe the next dozen materials but seems like we are on the right glide path now. <crosses fingers>

yreg 3y ago
> seems like we are on the right glide path now In what sense? Public interest? LK-99 wasn't an incremental step toward room temp superconductivity, was it?
- sureglymop 3y ago
  Public interest and popularity are not bad though. Raised interest, more funding etc. can all be good things and accelerate this research.
  - yreg 3y ago
    I'm not saying it is, but I wouldn't say that previously we weren't on the right path to that discovery and now, thanks to public interest, we are.
- phkahler 3y ago
  >> In what sense? Public interest? LK-99 wasn't an incremental step toward room temp superconductivity, was it? It was an incremental step toward this material. It also had some interesting properties at higher temperatures even if superconductivity wasn't one of them. It seemed really strange to me that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly. It got discredited faster than cold fusion, which is still lingering today under different names BTW.
  - yreg 3y ago
    > It was an incremental step toward this material. Could you please explain how?
    - whimsicalism 3y ago
      this material is very similar to lk99, nobody would be studying it if not for the lk99 hubbub
      - tux3 3y ago
        Right. Going back to the original message though, this doesn't say anything about whether or not this is the right path. It's definitely a path.
        once_inc 3y ago
        If this material exhibits the properties that the authors claim, then it most definitely is a massive step in the right direction. If so, the material can be applied in a significantly large number of settings at much lower upkeep costs. It can also lead us to another set of materials that might exhibit these properties at 20c/1atm.
  - opello 3y ago
    This is exactly why I'm still excited about all of this material science that I only appreciate from afar.
  - jcranmer 3y ago
    > It seemed really strange to me that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly. My understanding is that room-temperature superconductor claims come out on average every six months or so. So the impressive thing is that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly, but that it was treated as seriously as it was for as long as it was.
TheRealPomax 3y ago
Sorry, how is last year any different from the previous many decades of repeated claims of room temperature super conductivity that ended up not being room temperature superconductivity? LK99 was not "a step in the right direction", it was verifiably incorrect, and as a publication, it was bad science.

yreg 3y ago

> seems like we are on the right glide path now In what sense? Public interest? LK-99 wasn't an incremental step toward room temp superconductivity, was it?

sureglymop 3y ago
Public interest and popularity are not bad though. Raised interest, more funding etc. can all be good things and accelerate this research.
- yreg 3y ago
  I'm not saying it is, but I wouldn't say that previously we weren't on the right path to that discovery and now, thanks to public interest, we are.
phkahler 3y ago
>> In what sense? Public interest? LK-99 wasn't an incremental step toward room temp superconductivity, was it? It was an incremental step toward this material. It also had some interesting properties at higher temperatures even if superconductivity wasn't one of them. It seemed really strange to me that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly. It got discredited faster than cold fusion, which is still lingering today under different names BTW.
- yreg 3y ago
  > It was an incremental step toward this material. Could you please explain how?
  - whimsicalism 3y ago
    this material is very similar to lk99, nobody would be studying it if not for the lk99 hubbub
    - tux3 3y ago
      Right. Going back to the original message though, this doesn't say anything about whether or not this is the right path. It's definitely a path.
      - once_inc 3y ago
        If this material exhibits the properties that the authors claim, then it most definitely is a massive step in the right direction. If so, the material can be applied in a significantly large number of settings at much lower upkeep costs. It can also lead us to another set of materials that might exhibit these properties at 20c/1atm.
- opello 3y ago
  This is exactly why I'm still excited about all of this material science that I only appreciate from afar.
- jcranmer 3y ago
  > It seemed really strange to me that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly. My understanding is that room-temperature superconductor claims come out on average every six months or so. So the impressive thing is that LK99 was tossed aside so quickly, but that it was treated as seriously as it was for as long as it was.

TheRealPomax 3y ago

Sorry, how is last year any different from the previous many decades of repeated claims of room temperature super conductivity that ended up not being room temperature superconductivity? LK99 was not "a step in the right direction", it was verifiably incorrect, and as a publication, it was bad science.