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Creating a database of artists by city, to localize styles off of. Seems totally fine honestly..

justinl33 3y ago
I agree with that aspect of it, the democratization of individual artist's styles is okay and probably good for art. I think it's more the stuff said like: > all you have to do is just use those scraped datasets and then conveniently forget what you used to train the model. Boom legal problems solved forever showing that they plan to do this without any intention of attributing or fairly reimbursing the artists who's 'styles' (IP) they are localizing (and profiting off)
- pavel_lishin 3y ago
  > the democratization of individual artist's styles is okay and probably good for art. Is it? "The democratization of individual artist's styles" sure sounds like "automated ripping off" to me.
  - wahnfrieden 3y ago
    "Democratization of individual artist's" without attribution or compensation or consent is a euphemism for copyright laundering
  - justinl33 3y ago
    It’s good for art, conditional on the fact that artists get paid. Obviously, more recognition is always better as long as it is compensated appropriately. Maybe democratisation was the wrong word; makes it seem like it should be ‘free’
    - pavel_lishin 3y ago
      Yeah, it sure is free, in the sense that shoplifting is also free.
  - __loam 3y ago
    Imagine thinking we need to democratize a skill that takes a pencil and some paper to start learning.
    - dorkwood 3y ago
      Many people in the world don't have access to a pencil and paper, and may not possess the will or motivation to spend many hours studying a difficult skill.
      - __loam 3y ago
        But they have a computer with a high end gpu to run stable diffusion right? Laughable.
        throwaway5959 3y ago
        You can run stable diffusion on a $600 M2 Mac Mini.
        sussmannbaka 3y ago
        I knew the Apple Pencil was expensive, but every M2 user should be able to afford paper and pencil.
        __loam 3y ago
        A ream of printer paper and a pencil is less than $10.
      - jrflowers 3y ago
        > may not possess the will or motivation to spend many hours studying a difficult skill. The cruel tyranny of “not doing a thing because I don’t want to do it” rears its ugly head once again. Why isn’t everyone more concerned about all of the things I could do but don’t want to?? It is the ultimate disadvantage!

I agree with that aspect of it, the democratization of individual artist's styles is okay and probably good for art. I think it's more the stuff said like: > all you have to do is just use those scraped datasets and then conveniently forget what you used to train the model. Boom legal problems solved forever showing that they plan to do this without any intention of attributing or fairly reimbursing the artists who's 'styles' (IP) they are localizing (and profiting off)

pavel_lishin 3y ago
> the democratization of individual artist's styles is okay and probably good for art. Is it? "The democratization of individual artist's styles" sure sounds like "automated ripping off" to me.
- wahnfrieden 3y ago
  "Democratization of individual artist's" without attribution or compensation or consent is a euphemism for copyright laundering
- justinl33 3y ago
  It’s good for art, conditional on the fact that artists get paid. Obviously, more recognition is always better as long as it is compensated appropriately. Maybe democratisation was the wrong word; makes it seem like it should be ‘free’
  - pavel_lishin 3y ago
    Yeah, it sure is free, in the sense that shoplifting is also free.
- __loam 3y ago
  Imagine thinking we need to democratize a skill that takes a pencil and some paper to start learning.
  - dorkwood 3y ago
    Many people in the world don't have access to a pencil and paper, and may not possess the will or motivation to spend many hours studying a difficult skill.
    - __loam 3y ago
      But they have a computer with a high end gpu to run stable diffusion right? Laughable.
      - throwaway5959 3y ago
        You can run stable diffusion on a $600 M2 Mac Mini.
        sussmannbaka 3y ago
        I knew the Apple Pencil was expensive, but every M2 user should be able to afford paper and pencil.
        __loam 3y ago
        A ream of printer paper and a pencil is less than $10.
    - jrflowers 3y ago
      > may not possess the will or motivation to spend many hours studying a difficult skill. The cruel tyranny of “not doing a thing because I don’t want to do it” rears its ugly head once again. Why isn’t everyone more concerned about all of the things I could do but don’t want to?? It is the ultimate disadvantage!