Again, you whine about me bringing it up without bothering to explain why I'm wrong. Even if you give murderers the Anders Breivek treatment with a cushy apart

Again, you whine about me bringing it up without bothering to explain why I'm wrong. Even if you give murderers the Anders Breivek treatment with a cushy apartment style prison cell complete with gaming consoles and arts and crafts sessions, that's still a prison cell. You can dress it up to make it pretty, but he's still locked up, taken out of society, which is what both he and society deserves. If that is what is meant by the abolition of prisons, then it should be called prison reform instead. Prison reform I can get behind, but that's not what is actually being proposed. That's the motte the prison abolition radicals fall back on when challenged, not what they're actually calling for.