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The document says "generation". I though Germany imported a lot of their electricity. I can't tell if these numbers include the source of the imported power.

darknoon 3y ago
Interesting context I would like to know
ZeroGravitas 3y ago
Germany had been a net electricity exporter for the last 2 decades. I'm assuming that's still the case for last year or it would be bigger news. I did see one article fretting that they might turn into a net importer later in the decade.
- nomonnai 3y ago
  No, Germany has been a net importer in 2023. Whereas in 2022, 27.5 TWh were exported, in 2023, 8.6 TWh had to be imported. The summer was particularly disastrous, with 5.5 TWh imported in August alone. Germany consumed 483 TWh in 2022 and 457 TWh in 2023. Image of net export (2023) by month: https://ibb.co/jDkg9sF https://ibb.co/jDkg9sF. You can query and visualize these data on the official site of the Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency): https://www.smard.de/home/marktdaten https://www.smard.de/home/marktdaten. It's a capable tool, you should check it out. Once using it I realized that news reports cannot replace looking at the time series data.
  - locallost 3y ago
    Germany has around 80GW of capacity in fossil fuel plants so it can generate pretty much all of its electricity from that alone. The reasons it doesn't are: 1) it's cheaper to use excess wind and solar from neighbouring countries which is the vast majority of its imports. Prices in Germany have gone down dramatically since the nuclear shutdown 2) it's better for the environment So it's basically a win win and far away from disastrous. What is disastrous is when a quarter of your nuclear fleet goes offline unexpectedly and you need to import electricity in the middle of the biggest energy crisis of the last 50 years. And you need to nationalize the electricity company because it made a hole of 20 billion in a single year.
Symbiote 3y ago
You can see "Import balance" on the chart.
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darknoon 3y ago

Interesting context I would like to know

ZeroGravitas 3y ago

Germany had been a net electricity exporter for the last 2 decades. I'm assuming that's still the case for last year or it would be bigger news. I did see one article fretting that they might turn into a net importer later in the decade.

nomonnai 3y ago
No, Germany has been a net importer in 2023. Whereas in 2022, 27.5 TWh were exported, in 2023, 8.6 TWh had to be imported. The summer was particularly disastrous, with 5.5 TWh imported in August alone. Germany consumed 483 TWh in 2022 and 457 TWh in 2023. Image of net export (2023) by month: https://ibb.co/jDkg9sF https://ibb.co/jDkg9sF. You can query and visualize these data on the official site of the Bundesnetzagentur (Federal Network Agency): https://www.smard.de/home/marktdaten https://www.smard.de/home/marktdaten. It's a capable tool, you should check it out. Once using it I realized that news reports cannot replace looking at the time series data.
- locallost 3y ago
  Germany has around 80GW of capacity in fossil fuel plants so it can generate pretty much all of its electricity from that alone. The reasons it doesn't are: 1) it's cheaper to use excess wind and solar from neighbouring countries which is the vast majority of its imports. Prices in Germany have gone down dramatically since the nuclear shutdown 2) it's better for the environment So it's basically a win win and far away from disastrous. What is disastrous is when a quarter of your nuclear fleet goes offline unexpectedly and you need to import electricity in the middle of the biggest energy crisis of the last 50 years. And you need to nationalize the electricity company because it made a hole of 20 billion in a single year.

Symbiote 3y ago

You can see "Import balance" on the chart.

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