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NooneAtAll3 3y ago
finally I can express my opinion by linking to someone else's thank you I hate "ally" thing so much >_<
justinclift 3y ago
For an article that seems overly long and wordy that includes things like: On the initial use of an unfamiliar acronym within a document or a section, spell out the full term, and then put the acronym in parentheses. ... then goes on to lecture people about making things understandable... not even mentioning wtf "a11y" is supposed to mean is kind of taking the piss. :/
- sameerds 3y ago
  It looks like a deliberate decision to not explain the term until the very end ... a tongue-in-cheek demonstration of the problem being described. They eventually give the expansion towards the very end, but that too is obfuscated by putting it as an HTML abbr tag.
  - justinclift 3y ago
    Yeah, I got about 3 paragraphs into it, then did a search for a11y, then just closed the page.
yashap 3y ago
This is a tech specific community, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to use highly common tech abbreviations like a11y, TTL, K8s, DNS, SaaS, PaaS, FaaS, IaaS, i18n, DoS, DDoS, ISP, CRM, API, etc. We all know what they mean, and it saves typing. In a non-tech specific community, I wouldn’t use these abbreviations, but I see no issue with them here.
- jwestbury 3y ago
  I've been in tech for over a decade. I know all of your examples -- except a11y and i18n. Numeronym proliferation is a bit insane right now, and really needs to be stopped. :(
  - yashap 3y ago
    Hmm wild! I totally believe you, it’s just surprising to me. I’ve encountered these abbreviations constantly over the years, at multiple different tech companies, even though I work primarily as a backend engineer - they are FE concepts, are you by any chance a really heavily BE focused engineer, who doesn’t really touch frontends?
  - phanimahesh 3y ago
    Have you seen o11y to abbreviate observability?

NooneAtAll3 3y ago

finally I can express my opinion by linking to someone else's thank you I hate "ally" thing so much >_<

justinclift 3y ago

For an article that seems overly long and wordy that includes things like: On the initial use of an unfamiliar acronym within a document or a section, spell out the full term, and then put the acronym in parentheses. ... then goes on to lecture people about making things understandable... not even mentioning wtf "a11y" is supposed to mean is kind of taking the piss. :/

sameerds 3y ago
It looks like a deliberate decision to not explain the term until the very end ... a tongue-in-cheek demonstration of the problem being described. They eventually give the expansion towards the very end, but that too is obfuscated by putting it as an HTML abbr tag.
- justinclift 3y ago
  Yeah, I got about 3 paragraphs into it, then did a search for a11y, then just closed the page.

yashap 3y ago

This is a tech specific community, I think it’s perfectly reasonable to use highly common tech abbreviations like a11y, TTL, K8s, DNS, SaaS, PaaS, FaaS, IaaS, i18n, DoS, DDoS, ISP, CRM, API, etc. We all know what they mean, and it saves typing. In a non-tech specific community, I wouldn’t use these abbreviations, but I see no issue with them here.

jwestbury 3y ago
I've been in tech for over a decade. I know all of your examples -- except a11y and i18n. Numeronym proliferation is a bit insane right now, and really needs to be stopped. :(
- yashap 3y ago
  Hmm wild! I totally believe you, it’s just surprising to me. I’ve encountered these abbreviations constantly over the years, at multiple different tech companies, even though I work primarily as a backend engineer - they are FE concepts, are you by any chance a really heavily BE focused engineer, who doesn’t really touch frontends?
- phanimahesh 3y ago
  Have you seen o11y to abbreviate observability?