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A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is. Job analysis and design is a fascinating topic and should be

A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is. Job analysis and design is a fascinating topic and should become more important with "AI" changing the way we work. Unfortunately it's a topic covered mostly by HR consultants (it would benefit greatly from interest from the HN crowd). edit: to avoid confusion, I'm talking about "a job" as "a collection of similar positions", an Job Analysis as a "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities"

JeffSnazzy 3y ago
> A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is Wage-based employment is not subjective, it is a formally defined and legally-regulated practice. You can call contract work a "job" but it's not relevant to the topic at hand—wages.
- rjtavares 3y ago
  That's not what my comment is about. That's a contractual distinction. In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_analysis
  - JeffSnazzy 3y ago
    > In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities". Why would you think this is relevant?
bugglebeetle 3y ago
Companies that don’t have a good picture of what they want or need for an individual role are rarely good places to work for. Generally, this means “we will pile on whatever responsibilities we feel like and without paying you more.”

JeffSnazzy 3y ago

> A lot of discussion in this thread seems to be ignoring the subjectivity in defining what a job is Wage-based employment is not subjective, it is a formally defined and legally-regulated practice. You can call contract work a "job" but it's not relevant to the topic at hand—wages.

rjtavares 3y ago
That's not what my comment is about. That's a contractual distinction. In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_analysis https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Job_analysis
- JeffSnazzy 3y ago
  > In the context of HR, a "Job" is a collection of similar positions, an Job Analysis is "a family of procedures to identify the content of a job in terms of the activities it involves in addition to the attributes or requirements necessary to perform those activities". Why would you think this is relevant?

bugglebeetle 3y ago

Companies that don’t have a good picture of what they want or need for an individual role are rarely good places to work for. Generally, this means “we will pile on whatever responsibilities we feel like and without paying you more.”