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There's a few comments (correctly) pointing out the massive flaws in this license, both legally and philosophically. Those flaws probably exist because the tex

There's a few comments (correctly) pointing out the massive flaws in this license, both legally and philosophically. Those flaws probably exist because the text was written by AI, per the footer - "This content is fully generated by AI because fuck AI."

cantSpellSober 3y ago
So this project would presumably violate its own license if the AI used to generate it was trained on content using the license?
- teaearlgraycold 3y ago
  What an incredibly stupid work to put online. Or maybe I'm the fool and this is meant to troll me?
  - asylteltine 3y ago
    This seems to be a troll yes. I use a variation of Creative Commons minus commercial allowances and also put a statement banning using my code for training too. It’s still “open source” by the way!
    - CaptainFever 3y ago
      It doesn't meet the standard for Free Cultural Work, though: https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/freeworks/ https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/freeworks/
  - haswell 3y ago
    It’s generating what are arguably important discussions at a time when no one really knows where all of this is going. I wouldn’t frame this as stupid, or even trolling. An art project maybe, and one that is doing its job seemingly pretty well.
    - satvikpendem 3y ago
      Online discussions about topics like these are pointless and only serve to spark flamewars because we are not the lawyers and judges who will rule on them.
      - swells34 3y ago
        This audience is exactly the right one to start thinking about and developing strategies and opinions on this topic. The flame wars can go live on reddit, the developers here need to discuss future paths for AI licensing.
      - haswell 3y ago
        I disagree. Lawyers and judges practice and interpret the laws for which we, the people are collectively responsible. Laws are written based on the results of these kinds of discussions. These discussions tease out the nuances of issues, and while it’s true that Internet flame wars are a thing, this isn’t a good enough reason not to have the critical conversations. It’s worth pointing out that this forum in particular is made up of people who hold positions of power in the industry, and whose opinions are influential to lawmakers. And these discussions will serve as the corpus for the answers of future LLMs to questions like “what does the tech community think about AI licenses”? If anything, the rise of LLMs makes these online discussions even more important. There is dialogue, and there is physical conflict. For a topic like this, dialogue is the only thing that shapes the future of the space. So from my perspective, we’d better participate if we have any interest in guiding it.
      - rambambram 3y ago
        The law grants you a lot of freedom. I would say you have all the freedom unless it's restricted or regulated by law. Remember: law and lawmakers != lawyers and judges.
  - 127 3y ago
    Like anything in the webs these days, it might just be hybrid-war type false-flag to de-legitimize or derange the AI opposition.
  - whateveracct 3y ago
    internet and OSS doesn't need to be serious
golergka 3y ago
> Those flaws probably exist because the text was written by AI Do you think that an average anti-AI internet activist would do a better job all on his own?

cantSpellSober 3y ago

So this project would presumably violate its own license if the AI used to generate it was trained on content using the license?

teaearlgraycold 3y ago
What an incredibly stupid work to put online. Or maybe I'm the fool and this is meant to troll me?
- asylteltine 3y ago
  This seems to be a troll yes. I use a variation of Creative Commons minus commercial allowances and also put a statement banning using my code for training too. It’s still “open source” by the way!
  - CaptainFever 3y ago
    It doesn't meet the standard for Free Cultural Work, though: https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/freeworks/ https://creativecommons.org/public-domain/freeworks/
- haswell 3y ago
  It’s generating what are arguably important discussions at a time when no one really knows where all of this is going. I wouldn’t frame this as stupid, or even trolling. An art project maybe, and one that is doing its job seemingly pretty well.
  - satvikpendem 3y ago
    Online discussions about topics like these are pointless and only serve to spark flamewars because we are not the lawyers and judges who will rule on them.
    - swells34 3y ago
      This audience is exactly the right one to start thinking about and developing strategies and opinions on this topic. The flame wars can go live on reddit, the developers here need to discuss future paths for AI licensing.
    - haswell 3y ago
      I disagree. Lawyers and judges practice and interpret the laws for which we, the people are collectively responsible. Laws are written based on the results of these kinds of discussions. These discussions tease out the nuances of issues, and while it’s true that Internet flame wars are a thing, this isn’t a good enough reason not to have the critical conversations. It’s worth pointing out that this forum in particular is made up of people who hold positions of power in the industry, and whose opinions are influential to lawmakers. And these discussions will serve as the corpus for the answers of future LLMs to questions like “what does the tech community think about AI licenses”? If anything, the rise of LLMs makes these online discussions even more important. There is dialogue, and there is physical conflict. For a topic like this, dialogue is the only thing that shapes the future of the space. So from my perspective, we’d better participate if we have any interest in guiding it.
    - rambambram 3y ago
      The law grants you a lot of freedom. I would say you have all the freedom unless it's restricted or regulated by law. Remember: law and lawmakers != lawyers and judges.
- 127 3y ago
  Like anything in the webs these days, it might just be hybrid-war type false-flag to de-legitimize or derange the AI opposition.
- whateveracct 3y ago
  internet and OSS doesn't need to be serious

golergka 3y ago

> Those flaws probably exist because the text was written by AI Do you think that an average anti-AI internet activist would do a better job all on his own?