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It seems curbing natality is the easy part, despite all doomerism around population explosion. To raise it back when needed not so simple.
by Qem 3y ago
It seems curbing natality is the easy part, despite all doomerism around population explosion. To raise it back when needed not so simple.
- eesmith 3y agoWhy is it needed? Who decides, and what if they are wrong? The only reasons I saw given were: 1) it's a Confucian duty, 2) "Soldiers win battles", and 3) "Let’s extend the Chinese bloodline", none of which sound all the convincing to me, a non-Chinese person.
- catlover76 3y agoThe real reasons are almost certainly economic in nature and supported with some degree of rigor and data. Also of course "let's extend the Chinese bloodline" doesn't sound convincing to you as a non-Chinese person, why should it lol
- eesmith 3y agoMy point is the article doesn't give much in the way of reasons for why Chinese women should want to have more babies, while Qem argues it's needed. Sure, there might be a "degree of rigor and data", but what is the data and how convincing is it? I wrote what I did to show how ignorant I am of the topic, not to argue the viewpoint wasn't convincing to its intended audience. So, is an appeal to bloodline really that influential to Chinese women in their 20s? Based on the article and its linked-to related articles, it is not influential, not even in rural areas. For example, https://archive.is/MjbKJ https://archive.is/MjbKJ , says the cost of rearing a child and difficulty in securing a steady income are far more important to people in their 20s.
- squidbeak 3y agoA dwindling labour force is a problem for any nation.
- amanaplanacanal 3y agoI would assume automation eases that quite a bit.
- nickpeterson 3y agoNo, automation gains go to the few, everyone else must work harder now since their labor is worth less.
- TheLoafOfBread 3y agoDespite all the hype lately, automation nowadays is still crude and expensive compared to a human.
- The_Colonel 3y ago4) somebody needs to pay the rents of hundreds of millions of retirees
- Qem 3y ago> Why is it needed? Who decides, and what if they are wrong? https://chinapower.csis.org/china-demographics-challenges/ https://chinapower.csis.org/china-demographics-challenges/
- eesmith 3y agoWhich seems to say that the Chinese government wants cheap workers for its economy, both as industrial workers and as health care for the elderly. Is that really what's supposed to influence Chinese women to change their minds? Is that why you think China needs to quickly increase its natality? What if you and the Politburo are wrong, and the increase is best put off for another generation while China switches to a more culture which doesn't regard "women's labor" as free and instead pays more for socialized childcare and elder care? Waiting would also make housing cheaper, which would make it more affordable to raise children. It's easy for me to believe the interests of military, factory, and building concerns are overly represented in the call for raising the birth rate now, instead of waiting.