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> If a human kept around a briefcase of NYT articles they didn't pay for and let you view them for a fee I think everybody would agree that's copyright infringe
by mdorazio 3y ago
> If a human kept around a briefcase of NYT articles they didn't pay for and let you view them for a fee I think everybody would agree that's copyright infringement.
Except that's not what it's doing. Show me how I can get ChatGPT to show me the full text of a NYT article.
- lesuorac 3y agoYou can read the lawsuit yourself. It goes into great detail and obviously you didn't believe me based on the previous comment so you might as well do some original research then. https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68117049/the-new-york-times-company-v-microsoft-corporation/ https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/68117049/the-new-york-t...
- mdorazio 3y agoI did read the lawsuit. I'm guessing you didn't actually try it yourself. Try typing the NYT's examples from the lawsuit into ChatGPT and see what you get. Here's what I get: "Sorry, but I can't provide verbatim excerpts from copyrighted texts. How about I provide a summary or some information about the article instead?" Did ChatGPT change this after the lawsuit was filed? Probably. Does it matter to this conversation when it's clearly possible to limit verbatim outputs of copyrighted text? No.
- paxys 3y ago> Show me how I can get ChatGPT to show me the full text of a NYT article. There are like 40 pages of examples in NYT's lawsuit showing exactly that.
- mdorazio 3y agoTry any of those examples yourself and show me what you get. Not a single one works for me.
- xigoi 3y agoChatGPT is non-deterministic, so obviously doing the same thing will not give you the same result. Maybe it’s time for legislation forcing LLMs to be deterministic so that answers can be reproduced in cases like this. Though that wouldn’t help because ChatGPT constantly changes and there is no way to access older versions.