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How would that effect, for example, maintaining a large corpus of pirated work for training AI on? Presume that you didn't break any other laws in the process o

How would that effect, for example, maintaining a large corpus of pirated work for training AI on? Presume that you didn't break any other laws in the process of pirating the works? Could I license a large corpus of pirated work to people explicitly using it for AI training? Like if I downloaded all the books, and then sold access to that collection to someone for AI training, with them agreeing to a EULA preventing them from actually reading the books? All kinds of interesting legal questions.

Ekaros 3y ago
My understanding in general with piracy is that it goes after those that do the distribution. So you downloading all possible material from where ever as long as it is not illegal is likely rather low risk/penalty. However system will absolutely destroy you if you try to sell or distribute copies of material you collected...
- xtracto 3y ago
  I know here we are talking about Japan, and I am not familiar with Japan stance on Downloading / Uploading and copyright violations. But here in Mexico, you can download all you want, and last time I read the law, as long as you did stuff "not for profit" you could also distribute digital content. (of course I always say that, here in Mexico it is illegal to murder people, kidnap and whatnot, and look at how much they prosecute people that do that [95% of crime goes unpunished in Mexico [1]]) [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/violent-crimes-rise-mexico-948-go-unpunished-rcna2846?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/violent-crimes-rise-mexi...
  - Ekaros 3y ago
    Civil liability in many European countries and in USA too seems the real risk. Seed a torrent from home with wrong content and get nice "blackmail" letter from some lawyer... Go to court and end up paying thousands if not hundreds of thousands on some extremely bizarre calculations.
- traverseda 3y ago
  That's really what my question is about, are you allowed to distribute pirated content if, and only if, it's being used to train AI?

Ekaros 3y ago

My understanding in general with piracy is that it goes after those that do the distribution. So you downloading all possible material from where ever as long as it is not illegal is likely rather low risk/penalty. However system will absolutely destroy you if you try to sell or distribute copies of material you collected...

xtracto 3y ago
I know here we are talking about Japan, and I am not familiar with Japan stance on Downloading / Uploading and copyright violations. But here in Mexico, you can download all you want, and last time I read the law, as long as you did stuff "not for profit" you could also distribute digital content. (of course I always say that, here in Mexico it is illegal to murder people, kidnap and whatnot, and look at how much they prosecute people that do that [95% of crime goes unpunished in Mexico [1]]) [1] https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/violent-crimes-rise-mexico-948-go-unpunished-rcna2846?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/violent-crimes-rise-mexi...
- Ekaros 3y ago
  Civil liability in many European countries and in USA too seems the real risk. Seed a torrent from home with wrong content and get nice "blackmail" letter from some lawyer... Go to court and end up paying thousands if not hundreds of thousands on some extremely bizarre calculations.
traverseda 3y ago
That's really what my question is about, are you allowed to distribute pirated content if, and only if, it's being used to train AI?