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> DO NOT EVACUATE WITH LUGGAGE. Simple rule IMHO: keep your ID/password and a credit card on your person during take-off / landing. (Probably your phone, in a

> DO NOT EVACUATE WITH LUGGAGE. Simple rule IMHO: keep your ID/password and a credit card on your person during take-off / landing. (Probably your phone, in a pocket, as well.) Practically speaking as long as you can ID yourself and buy things (pay-off later), there's no property that's worth your life (or the life of other passengers).

steveBK123 3y ago
1000% If anything else is so imminently needed to maintain the life of you or your loved ones while traveling, keep it in your/their pockets. Past this everyone has some excuse of medical, dietary, sentimental, economic, etc reason to grab stuff out of their luggage. This contributes to loss of life. You have 60-90 seconds to evacuate a burning aircraft. This is 10-20x faster than a normal with-luggage deplaning. If you are fumbling around with luggage, you are a hazard to yourself and others. If you are evacuating a plane you are seconds to minutes away from a fleet of ambulances ready to whisk you away to a nearby trauma center. No existing medical condition is going to get you before the fire will.
ghaff 3y ago
I don’t routinely do so but there are a few basic things that in an ideal world you should probably have on your person in some secure way—which admittedly probably requires some specific clothing. ADDED: There probably are certain specialized critical medicines that people should carry in a vial around their necks that they’re not getting anytime soon from an overwhelmed trauma center. But that’s probably true even absent the plane crash scenario.
- steveBK123 3y ago
  If someone is willing to leave home without it for a walk in the park / drinks at a bar / quick stop at the store, then they can evacuate a burning plane without it. If it is truly that imminently required to keep them alive, they should already be in the habit of keeping it on their person. And certainly while flying, and at the very very least during takeoff/landing on a plane. Further, absolute worst case.. with pre-evacuation warning time, reachable in under seat backpack to be moved to your jeans/shirt/jacket pocket. If you travel in clothes without pockets, now is a good time to reconsider doing so. Lots of opportunities here to not try and lug baggage down an evacuation slide and risk your own / fellow passengers deaths. If this is surprising to anyone reading, hope you plan accordingly now during your next travel.
  - ghaff 3y ago
    Yes, lots of stuff can happen in everyday life that would mean you should have critical medications on your person. At the end of the day your passport and credit cards situation aren’t critical in such a situation however much bureaucratic hell you may go through if you’re in a foreign country with no ID or money and not of a nationality where your embassy is rushing to help. In general my approach is travel pants with zipped pockets.
mattlondon 3y ago
+1 I usually do this when flying for work. Wallet, passport and phone in my pocket the whole flight. Anything else can be replaced. If anything happened I'd hope to at least send a SMS to my wife to say "I'm safe".

steveBK123 3y ago

1000% If anything else is so imminently needed to maintain the life of you or your loved ones while traveling, keep it in your/their pockets. Past this everyone has some excuse of medical, dietary, sentimental, economic, etc reason to grab stuff out of their luggage. This contributes to loss of life. You have 60-90 seconds to evacuate a burning aircraft. This is 10-20x faster than a normal with-luggage deplaning. If you are fumbling around with luggage, you are a hazard to yourself and others. If you are evacuating a plane you are seconds to minutes away from a fleet of ambulances ready to whisk you away to a nearby trauma center. No existing medical condition is going to get you before the fire will.

ghaff 3y ago

I don’t routinely do so but there are a few basic things that in an ideal world you should probably have on your person in some secure way—which admittedly probably requires some specific clothing. ADDED: There probably are certain specialized critical medicines that people should carry in a vial around their necks that they’re not getting anytime soon from an overwhelmed trauma center. But that’s probably true even absent the plane crash scenario.

steveBK123 3y ago
If someone is willing to leave home without it for a walk in the park / drinks at a bar / quick stop at the store, then they can evacuate a burning plane without it. If it is truly that imminently required to keep them alive, they should already be in the habit of keeping it on their person. And certainly while flying, and at the very very least during takeoff/landing on a plane. Further, absolute worst case.. with pre-evacuation warning time, reachable in under seat backpack to be moved to your jeans/shirt/jacket pocket. If you travel in clothes without pockets, now is a good time to reconsider doing so. Lots of opportunities here to not try and lug baggage down an evacuation slide and risk your own / fellow passengers deaths. If this is surprising to anyone reading, hope you plan accordingly now during your next travel.
- ghaff 3y ago
  Yes, lots of stuff can happen in everyday life that would mean you should have critical medications on your person. At the end of the day your passport and credit cards situation aren’t critical in such a situation however much bureaucratic hell you may go through if you’re in a foreign country with no ID or money and not of a nationality where your embassy is rushing to help. In general my approach is travel pants with zipped pockets.

mattlondon 3y ago

+1 I usually do this when flying for work. Wallet, passport and phone in my pocket the whole flight. Anything else can be replaced. If anything happened I'd hope to at least send a SMS to my wife to say "I'm safe".