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I doubt your “other domains” are as safe and reliable as the aviation industry. An automated system may be possible to make, but will require a huge undertaking

by tonmoy 3y ago

I doubt your “other domains” are as safe and reliable as the aviation industry. An automated system may be possible to make, but will require a huge undertaking to bring even close to the current safety standards, and would introduce its own safety issues

konschubert 3y ago
If I step into the elevator door, it doesn’t squash me and the elevator won’t move.
- drtgh 3y ago
  In the past six years there was some accidents just in the EU, at least one decapitation happened in the elevator of an hospital what I know. Or in the city were I live, a fail in a badly lubricated brake when an old person was entering (open door) sent the elevator to the top, just a few weeks after passing the monthly -supposed- maintenance service of the manufacturer. The maintenance seriousness in aviation is superior to an elevator, but even like that, the last human layer decision should not be avoided. For example, bad behaving sensor feeding a fin balancing algorithm introduced by the manufacturer to avoid the need to redesign an unbalanced plane to accommodate larger motors it was designed for, and pilots unable to make the plane follow their commanding due such algorithm blind decisions priority... has crashed planes.
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Usually. Liveleak will show hundreds of exceptions however.
  - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
    Liveleak was shut down more than 2 years ago
- lxgr 3y ago
  An elevator is many orders of magnitude less complex than an airport, though. Total automation can be done quite safely in some domains. Between that and a completely manual/human-operated system lies the area of augmentation, which can both be a boon to safety if done correctly, or deadly if it leads to automation complacency or false expectations around the types of situations it can successfully handle.

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I doubt your “other domains” are as safe and reliable as the aviation industry. An automated system may be possible to make, but will require a huge undertaking

by tonmoy 3y ago

konschubert 3y ago
If I step into the elevator door, it doesn’t squash me and the elevator won’t move.
- drtgh 3y ago
  In the past six years there was some accidents just in the EU, at least one decapitation happened in the elevator of an hospital what I know. Or in the city were I live, a fail in a badly lubricated brake when an old person was entering (open door) sent the elevator to the top, just a few weeks after passing the monthly -supposed- maintenance service of the manufacturer. The maintenance seriousness in aviation is superior to an elevator, but even like that, the last human layer decision should not be avoided. For example, bad behaving sensor feeding a fin balancing algorithm introduced by the manufacturer to avoid the need to redesign an unbalanced plane to accommodate larger motors it was designed for, and pilots unable to make the plane follow their commanding due such algorithm blind decisions priority... has crashed planes.
- porkbeer 3y ago
  Usually. Liveleak will show hundreds of exceptions however.
  - pi-e-sigma 3y ago
    Liveleak was shut down more than 2 years ago
- lxgr 3y ago
  An elevator is many orders of magnitude less complex than an airport, though. Total automation can be done quite safely in some domains. Between that and a completely manual/human-operated system lies the area of augmentation, which can both be a boon to safety if done correctly, or deadly if it leads to automation complacency or false expectations around the types of situations it can successfully handle.