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I chalk it up to the fact that what’s perfectly normal within a group of friends can seem harsh from the outside. He’s probably just accustomed to making jokes

I chalk it up to the fact that what’s perfectly normal within a group of friends can seem harsh from the outside. He’s probably just accustomed to making jokes like that with Jay, so sees no issue putting it on his blog.

Lockyy 15y ago
"Perfectly normal within friends." What is perfectly normal within friends can still be unwanted, even if it was okay at first. It's why I don't like to encourage jokey insults like this any more. Sure at first I was okay with homophobic comments, but after a while it turns from being playful with friends into hurtful and annoying. I definitely agree with StavrosK, it does feel very off to me.
- evincarofautumn 15y ago
  Well, yes. I did find the comment in extremely poor taste, but I also don’t pretend to have enough information to assess it further. Nothing to do but suspend judgement and give a measured response.
  - StavrosK 15y ago
    Well, if a gay friend of mine doesn't mind "even the gay gets laid more than me", it still doesn't mean I'll go around saying it in public or online, I don't have the relationship I have with my friend with everyone. Anyway, I was just checking to see if that was a generally accepted statement just because the word "furry" was there rather than something else, or if I was missing something.
    - evincarofautumn 15y ago
      Oh, undoubtedly. Even online, the vast majority of people don’t know or understand internet subcultures nearly as well as general issues of sexuality. It’s unrealistic to expect otherwise. I take more good-natured flak from my friends for identifying as a furry than for being bisexual. This without even associating with roleplay, pornography, fursuiting, conventions, Otherkin, or any of the “sub-subcultures” that get attention for their peculiarities. I just think anthropomorphic animal characters are pretty swell.
      - daeken 15y ago
        While I'd agree if this was just a random friend he was referring to as a furry, but... this is Jay Naylor we're talking about. His being a furry is very, very, very public -- in fact, he's one of the best known furries out there. I think you're taking this entirely too seriously.
        evincarofautumn 15y ago
        Distasteful is not serious. Consider the durian fruit, how it smells, how it makes us hold our noses and laugh. No, I don’t take this seriously. I have already forgotten it.

Lockyy 15y ago

"Perfectly normal within friends." What is perfectly normal within friends can still be unwanted, even if it was okay at first. It's why I don't like to encourage jokey insults like this any more. Sure at first I was okay with homophobic comments, but after a while it turns from being playful with friends into hurtful and annoying. I definitely agree with StavrosK, it does feel very off to me.

evincarofautumn 15y ago
Well, yes. I did find the comment in extremely poor taste, but I also don’t pretend to have enough information to assess it further. Nothing to do but suspend judgement and give a measured response.
- StavrosK 15y ago
  Well, if a gay friend of mine doesn't mind "even the gay gets laid more than me", it still doesn't mean I'll go around saying it in public or online, I don't have the relationship I have with my friend with everyone. Anyway, I was just checking to see if that was a generally accepted statement just because the word "furry" was there rather than something else, or if I was missing something.
  - evincarofautumn 15y ago
    Oh, undoubtedly. Even online, the vast majority of people don’t know or understand internet subcultures nearly as well as general issues of sexuality. It’s unrealistic to expect otherwise. I take more good-natured flak from my friends for identifying as a furry than for being bisexual. This without even associating with roleplay, pornography, fursuiting, conventions, Otherkin, or any of the “sub-subcultures” that get attention for their peculiarities. I just think anthropomorphic animal characters are pretty swell.
    - daeken 15y ago
      While I'd agree if this was just a random friend he was referring to as a furry, but... this is Jay Naylor we're talking about. His being a furry is very, very, very public -- in fact, he's one of the best known furries out there. I think you're taking this entirely too seriously.
      - evincarofautumn 15y ago
        Distasteful is not serious. Consider the durian fruit, how it smells, how it makes us hold our noses and laugh. No, I don’t take this seriously. I have already forgotten it.