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Nope, that narrative was largely a myth. The people at the back by and large died instantly in the crash, without even time to undo their seatbelts. https://en.

Nope, that narrative was largely a myth. The people at the back by and large died instantly in the crash, without even time to undo their seatbelts. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492#Evacuation_with_luggage https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aeroflot_Flight_1492#Evacuatio...

borissk 3y ago
Hmmmm, there were plenty of videos of people with hand luggage outside the plane - surely taking this luggage was against the rules and has slowed down the evacuation. I won't be surprised if TASS is just trying to cover the story. I think it was a different Russian crash were the pilots were given state medals for saving the passengers. A later investigation found these same pilots were responsible for the crash. The powers that be decided that instead of admitting they were wrong, revoking the medals and sending the pilots to prison they'll just cover up the whole story.
- okasaki 3y ago
  I don't see how that makes sense. Why would they say the people died instantly in a Russian aircraft if the truth was that they died because others wanted to retrieve luggage? Not everything the Russian government does is a conspiracy.
  - throwaway290 3y ago
    As a Russian I can easily envision the pathologically lying government doing this. The Wikipedia article linked above shows that there are no verified sources except government and that government also says there's no war in Ukraine. The credibility of the source is very low in my eyes. And generally remember the general effort to discredit West. If you want West to look more immoral than you, it's hard to do without looking more moral than West and this incident, if true, would be an example of people being VERY immoral. As you slowly collect your bags you have no way to know that people behind you are 100% dead and beyond help. Any attempt of the government to say it's fine is just pathetic.
steveBK123 3y ago
People evacuating with luggage do not have perfect information from the future to know that their selfish decision is not going to kill people. Therefore, people should not do this.
- resolutebat 3y ago
  Nobody is saying they should, it just wasn't a significant factor in this disaster.

borissk 3y ago

Hmmmm, there were plenty of videos of people with hand luggage outside the plane - surely taking this luggage was against the rules and has slowed down the evacuation. I won't be surprised if TASS is just trying to cover the story. I think it was a different Russian crash were the pilots were given state medals for saving the passengers. A later investigation found these same pilots were responsible for the crash. The powers that be decided that instead of admitting they were wrong, revoking the medals and sending the pilots to prison they'll just cover up the whole story.

okasaki 3y ago
I don't see how that makes sense. Why would they say the people died instantly in a Russian aircraft if the truth was that they died because others wanted to retrieve luggage? Not everything the Russian government does is a conspiracy.
- throwaway290 3y ago
  As a Russian I can easily envision the pathologically lying government doing this. The Wikipedia article linked above shows that there are no verified sources except government and that government also says there's no war in Ukraine. The credibility of the source is very low in my eyes. And generally remember the general effort to discredit West. If you want West to look more immoral than you, it's hard to do without looking more moral than West and this incident, if true, would be an example of people being VERY immoral. As you slowly collect your bags you have no way to know that people behind you are 100% dead and beyond help. Any attempt of the government to say it's fine is just pathetic.

steveBK123 3y ago

People evacuating with luggage do not have perfect information from the future to know that their selfish decision is not going to kill people. Therefore, people should not do this.

resolutebat 3y ago
Nobody is saying they should, it just wasn't a significant factor in this disaster.