> Being more optimal only really matters at a very high level of athleticism goals, if one is at the point where they need to optimise their protein intake wind

> Being more optimal only really matters at a very high level of athleticism goals, if one is at the point where they need to optimise their protein intake windows they'd already know about it given that reaching such high level requires a lot of nutrition knowledge. It's not just about anabolic window timing though. In fact, my point in using the word optimal is about the opposite of how you are approaching it above. For the majority of HN audience that fall outside of the switched-on bodybuilder/diet planning over-optimiser type, a restrictive TRF window simply makes it more difficult to get all the protein that one could benefit from. I'm not talking about optimising to the point of diminishing returns; the simple heuristic "don't skip breakfast but have one with protein" can have a significant benefit to the dietary macronutrient composition for many people with no other effort. Because even if they know two scoops of whey after or eating a second chicken breast for dinner might be a good idea, it doesn't always happen because there are more hedonic choices.