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Yes, but until it actively blocks people's typical day, it will be low on people's priority list. Those of us that, for whatever reason, see it coming, should

Yes, but until it actively blocks people's typical day, it will be low on people's priority list. Those of us that, for whatever reason, see it coming, should keep calm and steady and keep ocasionnaly presenting our view in a non-confrontational way, and support groups or legislative efforts which may be allies. If you, like me, don't have the mental bandwidth for all of that, just try to keep frustration to a low when possible and keep rowing for the good side.

verisimi 3y ago
> Those of us that, for whatever reason, see it coming, should keep calm and steady and keep ocasionnaly presenting our view in a non-confrontational way Yes. > and support groups or legislative efforts which may be allies. No. Legislative bodies are part of the problem. Most groups too . The governance structure is fascistic already - it is government and corporations working together. The tanker cannot be redirected, it's not a case of voting someone else in. If that's negative, sorry, but don't blame me. I'd rather deal with reality than a false hope. The deeper answer for me, lies with each individual. Each of us gets to choose.
- fifteen1506 3y ago
  I see your point. I counter with: Societies abhor power vacuums. Someone will fill that niche. So, increased accountability is what's needed. More good newspapers/magazines with good research/investigation. More literacy. More time to do those things. More money to support good work.
  - verisimi 3y ago
    I see the vacuum issue with societies. But this talks to the heart of the issue - who has authority over the individual? Is a social structure (laws, convention, the understood history provided by that society, religion etc) superior to an individual and their lived experience? Can we say it is right for society to forcibly extract wealth and resources from those it purports to govern, for the greater good? Or is all that self-serving nonsense, to justify slavery? And then you might wonder what the purpose of this experience is for oneself. Is it to accommodate oneself to power in the best way one can, accepting it as inevitable, thereby tacitly consenting to the system we find? Or do we even embrace the system, to get all the goodies we can? Or does one grasp at something more intangible such as doing right and being guided by truth and love, trying to recover or even improve one's soul?
    - fifteen1506 3y ago
      You're thinking too much. People crave confort. Be it a god, a church, the state or a feudal lord who promises everything will be alright.

verisimi 3y ago

> Those of us that, for whatever reason, see it coming, should keep calm and steady and keep ocasionnaly presenting our view in a non-confrontational way Yes. > and support groups or legislative efforts which may be allies. No. Legislative bodies are part of the problem. Most groups too . The governance structure is fascistic already - it is government and corporations working together. The tanker cannot be redirected, it's not a case of voting someone else in. If that's negative, sorry, but don't blame me. I'd rather deal with reality than a false hope. The deeper answer for me, lies with each individual. Each of us gets to choose.

fifteen1506 3y ago
I see your point. I counter with: Societies abhor power vacuums. Someone will fill that niche. So, increased accountability is what's needed. More good newspapers/magazines with good research/investigation. More literacy. More time to do those things. More money to support good work.
- verisimi 3y ago
  I see the vacuum issue with societies. But this talks to the heart of the issue - who has authority over the individual? Is a social structure (laws, convention, the understood history provided by that society, religion etc) superior to an individual and their lived experience? Can we say it is right for society to forcibly extract wealth and resources from those it purports to govern, for the greater good? Or is all that self-serving nonsense, to justify slavery? And then you might wonder what the purpose of this experience is for oneself. Is it to accommodate oneself to power in the best way one can, accepting it as inevitable, thereby tacitly consenting to the system we find? Or do we even embrace the system, to get all the goodies we can? Or does one grasp at something more intangible such as doing right and being guided by truth and love, trying to recover or even improve one's soul?
  - fifteen1506 3y ago
    You're thinking too much. People crave confort. Be it a god, a church, the state or a feudal lord who promises everything will be alright.