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The ratios are insane. 9 desperate men for every 1 woman is the UK ratio. No "normal blokes" are getting laid in that scenario. And that's nothing new. You're 4

The ratios are insane. 9 desperate men for every 1 woman is the UK ratio. No "normal blokes" are getting laid in that scenario. And that's nothing new. You're 40 like me so I imagine you've been to a bar or a club. This ritual has been played out for a century. Same experiment, exactly the same results. The only variations are alcohol, drugs and mood lighting to help the Average Joe. The problem isn't women. It's that you're competing for sex with a tiny pool of women in a contest on assets you do not have. [If you are, as many are who espouse these feelings] you're not involuntarily celibate, you're voluntarily picking a contest you cannot win. The vast majority of women don't join these things, they meet people in their day-to-day lives. I can barely imagine the damage you've done to yourself by throwing yourself on the stack for two thirds of your life, but you've got to see that even if you do occasionally luck out, it's not a platform for finding a life.

talldatethrow 3y ago
I luckily still manage because of height and talking ability, but I have seen the standards change drastically in the last 10 years. Not trying to date from bars or dance clubs is obvious. Which previously meant men and women would date from work and social circle. Well, now at least half of women are dating exclusively from online dating, and picking out of their league because it's more anonymous. And even girls that don't date online exclusively, tried it a few times and again, landed with guys that would never commit. It's basically poisoning the well.
- oliwarner 3y ago
  Barely a quarter of women have ever used an app and retention is dire. 50% bounce after the first experience, 10% leave a year for meaningful relationships, and the rest —those that aren't sex workers and bots promoting sex workers— get to fill their boots. This tallies with why apps are a 9:1 sausagefest. And I might suggest that the standards you've seen changing might correlate with your own age and your own shifting standards. If those women are your idea of poison, remind yourself that you're choosing to drink from this tiny minority of self-selecting women. I don't think it's fair to blame them or the well owner for your proclivities.
  - talldatethrow 3y ago
    Barely a quarter of women.... Most of which would be already partnered well before the takeoff of these apps. Come on, atleast look up the right age range and right demographic. I found a 2017 (!) study that said 40% of non married people found their current partner online. Now factor in that online dating often leads to shorter term interactions for exactly the reasons I discussed, it's clear that over 50% of 18-35% women have used online dating. I personally have seen the change. When I was young, almost no women did online dating. 20 years later, you would really be hard pressed to find a woman that hasn't tried it. And the reason most stop is because they get burned. That burning leaves a scar, and that's what I mentioned also.
Log_out_ 3y ago
Well at least average Joe doesn't get to pay for the pursuit of others happiness aka his her non relationship via taxes and social services. That would be bitter. It's a miracle it's not a widespread civil war out there.

talldatethrow 3y ago

I luckily still manage because of height and talking ability, but I have seen the standards change drastically in the last 10 years. Not trying to date from bars or dance clubs is obvious. Which previously meant men and women would date from work and social circle. Well, now at least half of women are dating exclusively from online dating, and picking out of their league because it's more anonymous. And even girls that don't date online exclusively, tried it a few times and again, landed with guys that would never commit. It's basically poisoning the well.

oliwarner 3y ago
Barely a quarter of women have ever used an app and retention is dire. 50% bounce after the first experience, 10% leave a year for meaningful relationships, and the rest —those that aren't sex workers and bots promoting sex workers— get to fill their boots. This tallies with why apps are a 9:1 sausagefest. And I might suggest that the standards you've seen changing might correlate with your own age and your own shifting standards. If those women are your idea of poison, remind yourself that you're choosing to drink from this tiny minority of self-selecting women. I don't think it's fair to blame them or the well owner for your proclivities.
- talldatethrow 3y ago
  Barely a quarter of women.... Most of which would be already partnered well before the takeoff of these apps. Come on, atleast look up the right age range and right demographic. I found a 2017 (!) study that said 40% of non married people found their current partner online. Now factor in that online dating often leads to shorter term interactions for exactly the reasons I discussed, it's clear that over 50% of 18-35% women have used online dating. I personally have seen the change. When I was young, almost no women did online dating. 20 years later, you would really be hard pressed to find a woman that hasn't tried it. And the reason most stop is because they get burned. That burning leaves a scar, and that's what I mentioned also.

Log_out_ 3y ago

Well at least average Joe doesn't get to pay for the pursuit of others happiness aka his her non relationship via taxes and social services. That would be bitter. It's a miracle it's not a widespread civil war out there.