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Very disappointing, much less cuda cores than in 4090, no nvlink (32G won't be enough anyway), price x3 to 4090.
by ex3ndr 3y ago
Very disappointing, much less cuda cores than in 4090, no nvlink (32G won't be enough anyway), price x3 to 4090.
- jakderrida 3y ago>much less cuda cores than in 4090 "fewer", not "less".
- malermeister 3y agoWhile that's true, it feels a bit pedantic to correct parent like that.
- tcptomato 3y agoWhat would be the right way to correct him?
- sushibowl 3y agoI think the right way is, don't. This kind of "mistake" can not really result in any misunderstanding so there is not really any benefit gained from a correction. Correcting serves only to disrupt the flow of the conversation.
- prmoustache 3y agoIt benefits me, the non native english speaker passing by in the comments and who learnt something today.
- _a_a_a_ 3y agoI'm a native English speaker. I don't personally like corrections like this, and I would never criticise anyone for using the 'wrong' term. There is too much convention in English which isn't useful because it bleeds into pedantry and I think this is such a case. Using either word gets the job done cleanly, and at the bottom that's all that counts.
- prmoustache 3y agoThe problem is you take this as a critic, which is not.
- jpsouth 3y agoThis feels so wrong to post in this thread, but I’m going to bite. It’s ‘critique’, I believe you mean. I’m sorry. Edit: as someone who can’t even figure out the markdown to italicise right now, maybe I should have kept my nose out!
- prmoustache 3y agoSee! I am learning even more because of this.
- jakderrida 3y ago> you take this as a critic, which is not. Interesting. What is it?
- prmoustache 3y agoWell I was about to say correction but I think I got caught by a false cognate so it was indeed a critique but you weren't criticizing the previous post if my understanding of those words is correct.
- jzb 3y agoOTOH, what I see is misuse of words like this ultimately ends with “well, lots of people use it like this, so now it’s correct.” (See, for example, “literally,” or “comprise,” or “hopefully.”)
- closewith 3y agoAll the "incorrect" uses of those words are fine and are a part of the language. Outside of prescriptivism, that's just the use of the language, not misuse.
- edgyquant 3y agoWhat exactly did you learn? That some people try to enforce made up rules on native speakers and then feel superior for it?
- Salgat 3y agoThis is a tech forum for discussing technology. This isn't the place for that, and honestly I'd prefer not to have to sift through a bunch of pedantic grammar nitpicking on here.
- Majestic121 3y agoThere are a lot of ways to correct people. While I agree it's clearly not adding a lot to the conversation, the forum is async so it's not really disrupting much, as the comment goes down the comment list. I'm a non native speaker and surely make a lot of mistakes, and I would be OK with such a correction
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- jakderrida 3y agoIt's extremely pedantic and condescending, which are the only emotions I can feel any more and that's why I posted it.
- closewith 3y agoBoth are used so both are correct, unless you're a prescriptivist, in which case a saying about stones and glass houses comes to mind.
- jakderrida 3y agoPrescriptivist? Nah. Mandarin blow rid nails for happy deranged elf nestle corruptive hand wither. If it seems I stopped making sense, it's because I was briefly testing where your binary labels lead. Apparently, there are things between descriptivist and prescriptivist and both of us fall within those categories.
- closewith 3y agoYou're making my point for me, as your gibberish is not in use so is unintelligible. The person you replied to used perfectly common and comprehensible English, so much so that you knew exactly how to "correct" them. So the comment was grand and your prescriptivist response adds nothing of value. Hopefully you can see why this is true and reflect on why you felt the need to "correct" it.
- jakderrida 3y ago>So the comment was grand and your prescriptivist response There we go. The "response" was prescriptivist. The person posting it (me) and yourself are both somewhere in between the two. Now I think you're starting to get it. Regardless, the original response was a just a joke referring to Stannis Baratheon (from Game of Thrones) saying it. I think some people read it that way. You didn't.
- dghughes 3y agoA bunch.
- nolok 3y agoI personally find it "sort of" funny how nvidia is caught between what they need for gamers and what they need for IA, and how they're trying to pull all the tricks to not have their gamer cards eat up their "AI enthousiast" cards sales. Absurd pricing, ridiculous vram offering, I'm sure they're trying very hard to find a way to stop AI like SD or LLMs to run on their gamer cards at this point. It's reached a point where not only has ATI/AMD essentially caught up to them in rasterization, but they're frankly a better offer at every price point against the 4XXX generation for pure gaming, with only DLSS and brand recognition keeping nvidia ahead.
- djmips 3y agoElsewhere in the comments they make a good case for this card being positioned for Enterprise computing and not for gaming or ML.
- holoduke 3y agoWe just need some fierce foreign competition. I hope the Chinese will soon catch up and able to produce high performance gpus.
- zer00eyz 3y agoIt won't happen. The equipment from ASML and the know how of TSMC and Samsung is far far out of reach of china now. Intel can't even seem to get down to 5nm.
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- 3abiton 3y agoIs nvlink still relevant to AI?
- davidy123 3y agoThey claim PCIe4.0 makes it irrelevant, but that doesn't really make sense and it's most likely the case they want to charge a fortune for their high-memory options.
- muttled 3y agoIt is if you can pool the memory. It's easier than having to do the split of the models in software (though that's a somewhat solved problem) and from what I know allows higher GPU utilization on both cards when they don't have to wait for information to pass back and forth.
- ex3ndr 3y agoit is barely relevant to big players, but is extremely valuable for small players: distributing your workflow to multiple gpus manually is not that simple thing to do and there are a lot of much more interesting/important problem to solve than shoving your model to a gpu.
- Sohcahtoa82 3y agoExtremely disappointing. The 4090 wins in every benchmark for 1/3rd the price. Why would anybody buy this card? Is 8 GB more VRAM and lower power consumption really worth that much when the performance is so lackluster?
- muttled 3y agoYou know at first I was thinking the same thing, but after having 2x 3090's raise the temperature of my bedroom to 86 degrees in the middle of the night last week fine-tuning an LLM, I could see the draw of 64GB (for 2) with 400 watts total less heat than the 4090's in my work space.