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> if it did work, we'd probably know already just by looking at existing centenarian populations. This is a key point. Lots of people follow fasting type diets

by sjducb 3y ago

> if it did work, we'd probably know already just by looking at existing centenarian populations. This is a key point. Lots of people follow fasting type diets for cultural/religious reasons. Those groups are not over represented in existing centenarian populations. Circumstantial evidences does not prove an effect, but if the effect is real then you would expect to see lots of circumstantial evidence that is compatible with the effect. Right now there’s nothing to even suggest that calorie restriction increases lifespan in humans.

xwolfi 3y ago
The two I know the most, muslims and indians, seem not to follow "fasting type diet". Instead, they eat an enormous amount of fat, grow curry bellies, and look just as unhealthy as the scummiest american atheist... However, where I live in Hong Kong, they eat a lot of fish, vegetable and low amount of trash food, and live very old. But they're also very rich in general so hard to be sure of the cause. What culture/religion were you thinking of ?
- vishnugupta 3y ago
  Anecdotal. You are right about Indians being obese but it’s not because of the reasons you cited I think. Typical Indian diet now a days is extremely carb and sugar rich. Both of which contribute to the obesity. Ghee on the other hand is expensive and is accessible to a tiny fraction of the population.
jay_kyburz 3y ago
Check out that bluezone show on Netflix. https://www.netflix.com/title/81214929 https://www.netflix.com/title/81214929
- sjducb 3y ago
  The blue zone stuff has been debunked. It’s caused by poor birth records and pension fraud. > In the United States supercentenarian status is predicted by the absence of vital registration. In the UK, Italy, Japan, and France remarkable longevity is instead predicted by regional poverty, old-age poverty, material deprivation, low incomes, high crime rates, a remote region of birth, worse health, and fewer 90+ year old people. In addition, supercentenarian birthdates are concentrated on the first of the month and days divisible by five https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v2.abstract https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v2.abstract

by sjducb 3y ago

xwolfi 3y ago

The two I know the most, muslims and indians, seem not to follow "fasting type diet". Instead, they eat an enormous amount of fat, grow curry bellies, and look just as unhealthy as the scummiest american atheist... However, where I live in Hong Kong, they eat a lot of fish, vegetable and low amount of trash food, and live very old. But they're also very rich in general so hard to be sure of the cause. What culture/religion were you thinking of ?

vishnugupta 3y ago
Anecdotal. You are right about Indians being obese but it’s not because of the reasons you cited I think. Typical Indian diet now a days is extremely carb and sugar rich. Both of which contribute to the obesity. Ghee on the other hand is expensive and is accessible to a tiny fraction of the population.

jay_kyburz 3y ago

Check out that bluezone show on Netflix. https://www.netflix.com/title/81214929 https://www.netflix.com/title/81214929

sjducb 3y ago
The blue zone stuff has been debunked. It’s caused by poor birth records and pension fraud. > In the United States supercentenarian status is predicted by the absence of vital registration. In the UK, Italy, Japan, and France remarkable longevity is instead predicted by regional poverty, old-age poverty, material deprivation, low incomes, high crime rates, a remote region of birth, worse health, and fewer 90+ year old people. In addition, supercentenarian birthdates are concentrated on the first of the month and days divisible by five https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v2.abstract https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/704080v2.abstract