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Some people aren't afraid of dying even after they lose loved ones. Not everyone lives in fear.

by prometheus76 3y ago

croes 3y ago
Avoiding an unnecessary death isn't living in fear, it's living by common sense.
- zmgsabst 3y ago
  Francis Collins has already admitted the policies were myopic and didn’t account for QALY — they were malpractice that focused on a particular disease while ignoring the holistic situation.
  - croes 3y ago
    Hindsight is 20/20. Look what happened in Sweden, they say the same about their intial measures and lost more people in the first year of the pandemic than any other scandinavian country.
    - zmgsabst 3y ago
      What’s their total mortality by comparison, now?
      - croes 3y ago
        You mean after they got one of the highest vaccination rates in Europe? Less excess mortality than countries with lower vaccination rates.
- prometheus76 3y ago
  Running from death out of fear is the very definition of cowardice. There are higher goods that call one to put away their own fear and serve, no matter the cost.
  - croes 3y ago
    That's interesting because I remember lots of people fear masks and vaccines and refuse to use any of them even despite the mention of the higher goods. The ones vaccinated and masked didn't run, they stayed especially in the health sector.
    - prometheus76 3y ago
      Different set of "higher goods". I'm not a humanist. I'm a Christian. So going to church to worship God is more important than staying home to stay alive.
      - croes 3y ago
        You can also praise God at home and I am pretty sure that He prefers it if you do not deliberately jeopardise His creation so that you may no longer be able to support your family and do His work. Also what happened to "Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these.”?
        prometheus76 3y ago
        I can't participate in the Eucharist at home. Also, you are still assuming that sickness and suffering are inherently bad. There are worse things for your soul than sickness and death. Sickness and suffering in general heal your soul, and death means you have repented as much as you can and you are returning to your Lord. There is nothing to fear. Suffering and sickness shouldn't be avoided out of fear.
- prometheus76 3y ago
  And I should have clarified sooner: "it's living by common sense" is true if you are a humanist, which I am not. I am a Christian, so going to church to worship God is more important than staying home to stay alive.

Some people aren't afraid of dying even after they lose loved ones. Not everyone lives in fear.

croes 3y ago

Avoiding an unnecessary death isn't living in fear, it's living by common sense.

zmgsabst 3y ago
Francis Collins has already admitted the policies were myopic and didn’t account for QALY — they were malpractice that focused on a particular disease while ignoring the holistic situation.
- croes 3y ago
  Hindsight is 20/20. Look what happened in Sweden, they say the same about their intial measures and lost more people in the first year of the pandemic than any other scandinavian country.
  - zmgsabst 3y ago
    What’s their total mortality by comparison, now?
    - croes 3y ago
      You mean after they got one of the highest vaccination rates in Europe? Less excess mortality than countries with lower vaccination rates.
prometheus76 3y ago
Running from death out of fear is the very definition of cowardice. There are higher goods that call one to put away their own fear and serve, no matter the cost.
- croes 3y ago
  That's interesting because I remember lots of people fear masks and vaccines and refuse to use any of them even despite the mention of the higher goods. The ones vaccinated and masked didn't run, they stayed especially in the health sector.
  - prometheus76 3y ago
    Different set of "higher goods". I'm not a humanist. I'm a Christian. So going to church to worship God is more important than staying home to stay alive.
    - croes 3y ago
      You can also praise God at home and I am pretty sure that He prefers it if you do not deliberately jeopardise His creation so that you may no longer be able to support your family and do His work. Also what happened to "Love your neighbor as yourself.’ No other commandment is greater than these.”?
      - prometheus76 3y ago
        I can't participate in the Eucharist at home. Also, you are still assuming that sickness and suffering are inherently bad. There are worse things for your soul than sickness and death. Sickness and suffering in general heal your soul, and death means you have repented as much as you can and you are returning to your Lord. There is nothing to fear. Suffering and sickness shouldn't be avoided out of fear.
prometheus76 3y ago
And I should have clarified sooner: "it's living by common sense" is true if you are a humanist, which I am not. I am a Christian, so going to church to worship God is more important than staying home to stay alive.