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1. A proper retiree who is able to indulge in hobbies is very different from someone barely sustaining themselves on basic income (?) or a version of it. 2. Su
by antisthenes 3y ago
1. A proper retiree who is able to indulge in hobbies is very different from someone barely sustaining themselves on basic income (?) or a version of it.
2. Sure, but in the near future this is baseless techno-optimism just like fusion or colonizing the Solar System
3. Today they are a vocal, but mostly powerless minority. They cannot, by and large affect national welfare programs. Imagine if such a small minority held power over all means of housing and production?
4. Some work will always be required, even just to live. For now, to maintain a western developed standard of living, it's actually quite a bit of work, when you consider e.g. high tech electronics, transportation system, healthcare.
You're countering your own strawman arguments here.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago1. It's said that Britain produced its greatest rock 'n roll when it had the dole. They even rhyme. Point being -- I'm not sure that people need gobs of wealth to make art or to pursue other things that bring them satisfaction. UBI might lead to increases in certain kinds of intrinsically-motivated production. 4. If the western developed standard of living requires too much work, then one way out may be to abandon that standard. Perhaps it is a failed experiment. People in poor countries don't seem any less happy to me.
- kazinator 3y ago> People in poor countries don't seem any less happy to me. A good way to show that would be to stop activities like, oh, learning English and emigrating.