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Are you serious? Better going to a government with no added value vs a company providing a service for a monthly fee?

toomuchtodo 3y ago
Very serious. It is an opinion that it is no added value. Show me evidence that the French government is providing a lower quality of life than say, the US government. GDP and growth are poor measures of quality of life. Certainly, you are free to not participate in the market if you choose not to as a business owner or service provider. It is very likely nothing of value will be lost. Spotify's CEO is worth ~$3B while artists make pennies. Why would you incentivize such a structure unless your mental model tilts towards that being acceptable? I'm not saying this should be free or a utility, but it should probably be a business of a couple hundred people with a reasonable valuation target. As a nation state, you can say no. Europe does this, China does this. It can be done. "I would like to submit a bug report." The only people wringing their hands are those who would profit from the VC/tech fuckery ecosystem extending its reach. Don't let them; cut them tentacles seeking a moat/regulatory capture/entrenchment right off. We can do better, and I feel no shame in stating such a position. https://www.google.com/search?q=quality+of+life+france+vs+us https://www.google.com/search?q=quality+of+life+france+vs+us https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.l... https://www.expat.hsbc.com/expat-explorer/expat-guides/france/living-in-france/ https://www.expat.hsbc.com/expat-explorer/expat-guides/franc... https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/should-we-try-to-live-like-the-french/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/should-we-try-to-live-lik...
- darthrupert 3y ago
  Almost all the links you provided show USA having a higher quality of life than France in almost every way. For instance the first link of the google search (at least for me) was > https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=France https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/compare_countries_res... And then this >https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ shows USA as having in some ways having dramatically higher quality of life metrics, and minimally lacking only in a couple of ways. I think it's sad because the problems France has could easily be fixed by liberalizing and minimizing the economics. But the french people are extremely against that and so it will practically not happen. And France is rich enough due to historical reasons that it'll probably never be compelled to do so. Of course, USA should really be compared with EU, not a state like France. Comparing individual US states to France would be more accurate. Unfortunately, such metrics aren't usually available since USA is always considered a single entity in these reports.
- runsWphotons 3y ago
  really doubt artists are going to do better than pennies in france vs anywhere else. US is a good place to be an artist.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Not so much about artist comp going up as it is about driving down comp and valuations for these "tech" companies who attempt to use leverage to get their way. It's about power. Always was, always is (once you're passed a certain fiat amount; only so much "line goes up" before it no longer matters). As Theodore Roosevelt said about highest tax bracket taxpayers who might leave the country, "we wish them well!" Call the bluff of these people, they're the ones with something to lose. If they push too hard, make them lose. The rules are flexible, all of this (economic systems) is a shared delusion. Be mindful of this when negotiating and operating within the system.
  - ttoinou 3y ago
    US is a good place to be a good artist. France is a good place to be a subsidized artist
    - lores 3y ago
      Only if you conflate worldwide mass appeal with "good". It's a viewpoint, but far from the only one.
- junofan 3y ago
  > Spotify's CEO is worth ~$3B while artists make pennies. That sounds like the market signaling an underproduction of streaming services and an overproduction of musicians. A levy on streaming services earmarked for French artists pushes the market further into disequilibrium, giving people less of what they want and more of what they don’t want.
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Lalabadie 3y ago
France provides working services and a safety net from taxing a GDP per capita that's half of that of the US. Of course you think that government spending is useless if your reference is the US. It's a country that is useless at serving its citizens.

Very serious. It is an opinion that it is no added value. Show me evidence that the French government is providing a lower quality of life than say, the US government. GDP and growth are poor measures of quality of life. Certainly, you are free to not participate in the market if you choose not to as a business owner or service provider. It is very likely nothing of value will be lost. Spotify's CEO is worth ~$3B while artists make pennies. Why would you incentivize such a structure unless your mental model tilts towards that being acceptable? I'm not saying this should be free or a utility, but it should probably be a business of a couple hundred people with a reasonable valuation target. As a nation state, you can say no. Europe does this, China does this. It can be done. "I would like to submit a bug report." The only people wringing their hands are those who would profit from the VC/tech fuckery ecosystem extending its reach. Don't let them; cut them tentacles seeking a moat/regulatory capture/entrenchment right off. We can do better, and I feel no shame in stating such a position. https://www.google.com/search?q=quality+of+life+france+vs+us https://www.google.com/search?q=quality+of+life+france+vs+us https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.life/index.html https://www.cnn.com/2010/WORLD/europe/02/11/france.quality.l... https://www.expat.hsbc.com/expat-explorer/expat-guides/france/living-in-france/ https://www.expat.hsbc.com/expat-explorer/expat-guides/franc... https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/should-we-try-to-live-like-the-french/ https://www.brookings.edu/articles/should-we-try-to-live-lik...

darthrupert 3y ago
Almost all the links you provided show USA having a higher quality of life than France in almost every way. For instance the first link of the google search (at least for me) was > https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/compare_countries_result.jsp?country1=United+States&country2=France https://www.numbeo.com/quality-of-life/compare_countries_res... And then this >https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ https://www.oecdbetterlifeindex.org/countries/france/ shows USA as having in some ways having dramatically higher quality of life metrics, and minimally lacking only in a couple of ways. I think it's sad because the problems France has could easily be fixed by liberalizing and minimizing the economics. But the french people are extremely against that and so it will practically not happen. And France is rich enough due to historical reasons that it'll probably never be compelled to do so. Of course, USA should really be compared with EU, not a state like France. Comparing individual US states to France would be more accurate. Unfortunately, such metrics aren't usually available since USA is always considered a single entity in these reports.
runsWphotons 3y ago
really doubt artists are going to do better than pennies in france vs anywhere else. US is a good place to be an artist.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Not so much about artist comp going up as it is about driving down comp and valuations for these "tech" companies who attempt to use leverage to get their way. It's about power. Always was, always is (once you're passed a certain fiat amount; only so much "line goes up" before it no longer matters). As Theodore Roosevelt said about highest tax bracket taxpayers who might leave the country, "we wish them well!" Call the bluff of these people, they're the ones with something to lose. If they push too hard, make them lose. The rules are flexible, all of this (economic systems) is a shared delusion. Be mindful of this when negotiating and operating within the system.
- ttoinou 3y ago
  US is a good place to be a good artist. France is a good place to be a subsidized artist
  - lores 3y ago
    Only if you conflate worldwide mass appeal with "good". It's a viewpoint, but far from the only one.
junofan 3y ago
> Spotify's CEO is worth ~$3B while artists make pennies. That sounds like the market signaling an underproduction of streaming services and an overproduction of musicians. A levy on streaming services earmarked for French artists pushes the market further into disequilibrium, giving people less of what they want and more of what they don’t want.
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Lalabadie 3y ago

France provides working services and a safety net from taxing a GDP per capita that's half of that of the US. Of course you think that government spending is useless if your reference is the US. It's a country that is useless at serving its citizens.