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uh, gonna have to push back on “ Microsoft has become the best OSS citizen in terms of engineering talent and funding,” Perlow said. “More than 40% of Azure ar
by bionhoward 3y ago
uh, gonna have to push back on “ Microsoft has become the best OSS citizen in terms of engineering talent and funding,” Perlow said. “More than 40% of Azure are running Linux and OSS workloads, and most of its infrastructure doesn’t have anything to do with Microsoft software at all.”
That doesn’t necessarily mean Microsoft are great open sourcers, it just means Microsoft software isn’t fit for service and even they know it.
Furthermore, Microsoft bought GitHub, and transformed it from the core focus on version control systems, to some “AI-first” copilot hype nonsense, except if you read and actually earnestly follow the fine print of https://archive.ph/vJwLS#selection-3467.0-3471.139 https://archive.ph/vJwLS#selection-3467.0-3471.139 then you can’t use Microsoft GitHub Copilot for AI, and if you ask Copilot about this, they tell you to talk to a **ing lawyer. Excuse me?
Oh, “IANAL,” we all say, and rightly so.
Well, ok, let’s defer to King’s County, Washington Legislature, are they qualified to comment? https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=49.62&full=true https://app.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=49.62&full=true
How about Department of Justice, are they lawyer enough to have opinions about Microsoft Noncompetes?
https://www.justice.gov/media/967286/dl?inline https://www.justice.gov/media/967286/dl?inline
Buying GitHub doesn’t magically make you a virtuous open source company.
Does not running your own operating system doesn’t mean you’re favoring open source? No, it means your operating system isn’t working well enough for you, the owner, to prefer it over the alternative, or be able to convince customers to use it likewise.
Training on open source AI code, then forbidding others to use your AI to make AI,
Even in light of obvious humbug and the AI will gladly assist with making AI, and
even if only like a few people notice or care about this heinous anticompetitive conduct, and
even if the company themselves don’t ever enforce their evil terms,
do ANY of these EXCUSES make it RIGHT for uncapped-profit Microsoft to argue fair use in supporting a capped profit company to train AI on copyright material, then turn around and unfairly forbid use of AI to make AI?
Sorry for the rant but, if anyone thinks Microsoft is a sincere OSS role model in this context, then please send me a bag of whatever you are smoking.
- rstuart4133 3y agoI think the relationship between open source and for profit companies is rather like the relationship between us and plants. We like to think we are a more advanced life form than plants. After all we move, we think, we eat plants for breakfast. But the reality is, we can't exist without plants, whereas plants could happily exist without us. The genome of some plants (which is a proxy for complexity) is many times bigger than ours. And so it is with open source and companies. Companies tend to treat open source as a resource to be consumed. Their ability to concentrate capital means they can develop source code much faster than open source. They defend their IP with patents and litigate licence wars with gay abandon (to wit: Oracle vs Google over java), yet treat open source licences with distain, often ignoring them. But reality is almost all companies depend on open source now, and the largest open source projects are far larger than companies (eg, compare the source code Debian manages to Microsoft).