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Why I am using Windows 7 machine as a daily driver in 2024?

spacedrone808 3y ago
In this long read you will find subjective rant towards to “obsolete” Windows 7 and it's comparison with modern Windows.
mtmail 3y ago
Does Windows 7 still contain recent TLS cyphers? Websites starts to refuse connections with TLS < 1.2.
- ProllyInfamous 3y ago
  My only Microsoft machine, Win7, just lost the ability to play GTAIV (Steam stopped Win7 support in 2024, BOO). But it is still my main machine for anything financial or government -related, online. Most "official" websites still allow login/connections — whether legacy (or not) I'm not sure... as I don't need "all the features."
  - stuckkeys 3y ago
    why not just debloat win11?
    - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
      I bought a pristine N64, today, instead [of playing GTA]... came with 007 and MarioKart64. Craigslist has its miracles. To answer your question on debloating a more modern system: I don't want to [run something so cloud-dependent, requiring self-installed updates]. I turn Win7 on, and it boots in seconds — exactly to my unchanged specification(s). If my main application need was still supported on XP... I'd be running that =D
      - stuckkeys 3y ago
        I guess whatever works. I think the LTSC version of 11 that is coming out later this year should have the bare minimum. I have yet to test it. But yeah, I understand why you choose to stick with 7.
    - nullfield 3y ago
      Do you have solid suggestions for doing this?
    - simonblack 3y ago
      Why bother, when you can 'just' use Windows 7?
- fragmede 3y ago
  TLS 1.1 and 1.2 are supported by Windows 7 SP1 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-t...
eva_cananim 3y ago
I agree with the sentiment. I loathe windows 10. I ran Windows Server 2016 as a desktop operating system for a while, you can use a trial version for six months, which I found much less annoying but is not a solution to all the issues this guy is complaining about, and driver signing was a hassle.
simonblack 3y ago
Windows 7 is 'Peak Windows'. On my rare forays into Windows, Windows 7 is what I choose to use. As Microsoft declines, so does Windows. Microsoft can't afford to produce a better Windows.

In this long read you will find subjective rant towards to “obsolete” Windows 7 and it's comparison with modern Windows.

mtmail 3y ago

Does Windows 7 still contain recent TLS cyphers? Websites starts to refuse connections with TLS < 1.2.

ProllyInfamous 3y ago
My only Microsoft machine, Win7, just lost the ability to play GTAIV (Steam stopped Win7 support in 2024, BOO). But it is still my main machine for anything financial or government -related, online. Most "official" websites still allow login/connections — whether legacy (or not) I'm not sure... as I don't need "all the features."
- stuckkeys 3y ago
  why not just debloat win11?
  - ProllyInfamous 3y ago
    I bought a pristine N64, today, instead [of playing GTA]... came with 007 and MarioKart64. Craigslist has its miracles. To answer your question on debloating a more modern system: I don't want to [run something so cloud-dependent, requiring self-installed updates]. I turn Win7 on, and it boots in seconds — exactly to my unchanged specification(s). If my main application need was still supported on XP... I'd be running that =D
    - stuckkeys 3y ago
      I guess whatever works. I think the LTSC version of 11 that is coming out later this year should have the bare minimum. I have yet to test it. But yeah, I understand why you choose to stick with 7.
  - nullfield 3y ago
    Do you have solid suggestions for doing this?
  - simonblack 3y ago
    Why bother, when you can 'just' use Windows 7?
fragmede 3y ago
TLS 1.1 and 1.2 are supported by Windows 7 SP1 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-tls-1-1-and-tls-1-2-as-default-secure-protocols-in-winhttp-in-windows-c4bd73d2-31d7-761e-0178-11268bb10392 https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/topic/update-to-enable-t...

eva_cananim 3y ago

I agree with the sentiment. I loathe windows 10. I ran Windows Server 2016 as a desktop operating system for a while, you can use a trial version for six months, which I found much less annoying but is not a solution to all the issues this guy is complaining about, and driver signing was a hassle.

simonblack 3y ago

Windows 7 is 'Peak Windows'. On my rare forays into Windows, Windows 7 is what I choose to use. As Microsoft declines, so does Windows. Microsoft can't afford to produce a better Windows.