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that's all good but does it have FSD? Jokes aside, it is enlightening to see how far we have come. Just 10 years ago, seeing a Tesla in SF bay area would be a

that's all good but does it have FSD? Jokes aside, it is enlightening to see how far we have come. Just 10 years ago, seeing a Tesla in SF bay area would be a topic of conversation. Today, I have two Teslas parked in my garage and yesterday when we went for a NYE party, 80% of the attendees drove Tesla (or Tesla drove them ;)

ronnier 3y ago
Same, I also have two Teslas. 21 Y and a 23 S Plaid. What an experience to drive every day, absolutely love both of them.
- tirant 3y ago
  What’s special about driving a Tesla that makes the experience remarkable ? I’ve test driven recent Model 3 and Model Ys and found the experience subpar compared to other EVs: noisy, uncomfortable suspension, lack of parking assistant systems, lack of reliable speed limit recognition and lane keeping assistant system, no matrix headlights or even HUD. Basically every new technology you can have in new mid/high range cars compares to my old 2008 VW Golf is missing on modern Model 3/Ys. I loved the spacious interior, but felt also cheap. The UI of the screen is also very nice and smooth, but I still prefer using Apple CarPlay. People compliment Tesla supercharger network, and I have to admit I’ve never used it, but I also have to say I never had an issue with other HPC networks like Ionity or Fastned in Europe.
  - speedgoose 3y ago
    The value.
  - toomuchtodo 3y ago
    Not OP. Have driven over 110k miles in a 2018 Model S, bury me in it, I almost love it more than my family. Value is subjective, of course, but few material possessions bring me as much joy as driving fully electric across the country while the vehicle is on Autopilot (have driven across the US the last 6 years almost exclusively on Supercharger fast charging [1]). I paid for the future and got it, that is value (to me). (own an S, an X, and two Ys; also have a Cybertruck reservation) [1] https://supercharge.info/map https://supercharge.info/map
    - tirant 3y ago
      Yes, I understand, but I also can experience the same with other brands of vehicles. Tesla is really no different. Actually, I was not able to parallel park confidently with neither the Model 3 or Model Y due to the lack of reliable USS and front camera.
  - ronnier 3y ago
    The fsd is magic. Watching it make turns etc. And for my S plaid, it will beat anything on the road. Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. The sound system is extremely good. And the fact that my car has a gpu with steam and wireless controllers is a very cool feature. Playing street fighter in my car on an 18” screen is extremely neat.
    - leovander 3y ago
      > it will beat anything on the road. Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. What roads are you racing on and how often are you having to race a quarter mile?
    - jjtheblunt 3y ago
      If a Camry kicks up a rock and breaks your windshield, can you get it fixed easily? I'm not being sarcastic in that question: my cousin waited several months for a repair on his Model 3 in the Phoenix metro area with at least 2 dedicated Tesla corporate garage facilities.
      - ronnier 3y ago
        Yes. A bus broke my s plaid window with a rock. Had it fixed within a week. Dropped it off in the morning and had it back by 4pm
        jjtheblunt 3y ago
        Nice! I wonder if my cousin's repairs coincided with parts scarcity during the pandemic era confusion.
    - nixass 3y ago
      > The fsd is magic My car has adaptive cruise control too. > Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. Wow such a high schooler mentality. It's literally the only thing worth mentioning when describing Tesla to someone.
    - 3y ago
japanman185 3y ago
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loceng 3y ago
Arguably the sole reason the industry has come so far is because of Elon Musk not toeing the industrial complex line, of which clearly has attempted to suppress EV - whether was the status quo administrators-operators who weren't competent or compelled to create good enough disruptive technology - or it was mostly the oil industry attempting to squash it. I don't predict EVs will completely takeover though, as there is major distrust now of most governments and the one world order that seems to be attempting to form, and the highly dense energy of easily transportation gasoline is an obvious way to not be dependant on an easily controlled-captured power grid.
- recursive 3y ago
  It seems easier to get an EV charger off grid than a ICE refueling. Gasoline relies on refineries. You can charge your EV from solar panels at your secret hidden mountain lair.
  - bluGill 3y ago
    But you can but gas in a can as needed. Many remote locations don't have much solar potential because of lattitude.
    - Ekaros 3y ago
      Just have to check how much solar power solar panels produce during day now in areas beyond Artic Circle... Doesn't seem exactly great technology.
  - cesarb 3y ago
    > It seems easier to get an EV charger off grid than a ICE refueling. Gasoline relies on refineries. That's because you're restricting the ICE to gasoline. I believe you don't need a refinery to produce ethanol from sugarcane (ethanol-fueled ICE vehicles are common here in Brazil); I don't know much about diesel, but you might also not need a full refinery to produce biodiesel.
    - 3y ago
phyzome 3y ago
No, but the horseful carriage did.
- FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
  https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-will-drive-tiny-cars-get-froot-loops-180973406/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-will-drive-ti...

ronnier 3y ago

Same, I also have two Teslas. 21 Y and a 23 S Plaid. What an experience to drive every day, absolutely love both of them.

tirant 3y ago
What’s special about driving a Tesla that makes the experience remarkable ? I’ve test driven recent Model 3 and Model Ys and found the experience subpar compared to other EVs: noisy, uncomfortable suspension, lack of parking assistant systems, lack of reliable speed limit recognition and lane keeping assistant system, no matrix headlights or even HUD. Basically every new technology you can have in new mid/high range cars compares to my old 2008 VW Golf is missing on modern Model 3/Ys. I loved the spacious interior, but felt also cheap. The UI of the screen is also very nice and smooth, but I still prefer using Apple CarPlay. People compliment Tesla supercharger network, and I have to admit I’ve never used it, but I also have to say I never had an issue with other HPC networks like Ionity or Fastned in Europe.
- speedgoose 3y ago
  The value.
- toomuchtodo 3y ago
  Not OP. Have driven over 110k miles in a 2018 Model S, bury me in it, I almost love it more than my family. Value is subjective, of course, but few material possessions bring me as much joy as driving fully electric across the country while the vehicle is on Autopilot (have driven across the US the last 6 years almost exclusively on Supercharger fast charging [1]). I paid for the future and got it, that is value (to me). (own an S, an X, and two Ys; also have a Cybertruck reservation) [1] https://supercharge.info/map https://supercharge.info/map
  - tirant 3y ago
    Yes, I understand, but I also can experience the same with other brands of vehicles. Tesla is really no different. Actually, I was not able to parallel park confidently with neither the Model 3 or Model Y due to the lack of reliable USS and front camera.
- ronnier 3y ago
  The fsd is magic. Watching it make turns etc. And for my S plaid, it will beat anything on the road. Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. The sound system is extremely good. And the fact that my car has a gpu with steam and wireless controllers is a very cool feature. Playing street fighter in my car on an 18” screen is extremely neat.
  - leovander 3y ago
    > it will beat anything on the road. Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. What roads are you racing on and how often are you having to race a quarter mile?
  - jjtheblunt 3y ago
    If a Camry kicks up a rock and breaks your windshield, can you get it fixed easily? I'm not being sarcastic in that question: my cousin waited several months for a repair on his Model 3 in the Phoenix metro area with at least 2 dedicated Tesla corporate garage facilities.
    - ronnier 3y ago
      Yes. A bus broke my s plaid window with a rock. Had it fixed within a week. Dropped it off in the morning and had it back by 4pm
      - jjtheblunt 3y ago
        Nice! I wonder if my cousin's repairs coincided with parts scarcity during the pandemic era confusion.
  - nixass 3y ago
    > The fsd is magic My car has adaptive cruise control too. > Any super car or hyper car, it will take in 0-60 and the quarter mile. Wow such a high schooler mentality. It's literally the only thing worth mentioning when describing Tesla to someone.
  - 3y ago

japanman185 3y ago

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loceng 3y ago

Arguably the sole reason the industry has come so far is because of Elon Musk not toeing the industrial complex line, of which clearly has attempted to suppress EV - whether was the status quo administrators-operators who weren't competent or compelled to create good enough disruptive technology - or it was mostly the oil industry attempting to squash it. I don't predict EVs will completely takeover though, as there is major distrust now of most governments and the one world order that seems to be attempting to form, and the highly dense energy of easily transportation gasoline is an obvious way to not be dependant on an easily controlled-captured power grid.

recursive 3y ago
It seems easier to get an EV charger off grid than a ICE refueling. Gasoline relies on refineries. You can charge your EV from solar panels at your secret hidden mountain lair.
- bluGill 3y ago
  But you can but gas in a can as needed. Many remote locations don't have much solar potential because of lattitude.
  - Ekaros 3y ago
    Just have to check how much solar power solar panels produce during day now in areas beyond Artic Circle... Doesn't seem exactly great technology.
- cesarb 3y ago
  > It seems easier to get an EV charger off grid than a ICE refueling. Gasoline relies on refineries. That's because you're restricting the ICE to gasoline. I believe you don't need a refinery to produce ethanol from sugarcane (ethanol-fueled ICE vehicles are common here in Brazil); I don't know much about diesel, but you might also not need a full refinery to produce biodiesel.
  - 3y ago

phyzome 3y ago

No, but the horseful carriage did.

FooBarBizBazz 3y ago
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-will-drive-tiny-cars-get-froot-loops-180973406/ https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/rats-will-drive-ti...