I should have been clearer: I'm not against JS, I'm huge fan actually but I don't see the promised lands of better user experience with having these overly comp

I should have been clearer: I'm not against JS, I'm huge fan actually but I don't see the promised lands of better user experience with having these overly complex architectures where the UI is JS heavy and has to be pre-rendered on the server side so that the Search engines can make a sense of it. Larger and larger, heavier and heavier JS never delivered those perfected UI experiences that Web technologist promised. The Web technology folks still circle around the same problems like 10 years ago when the actually popular and successful websites like HN and others deliver superb UX with the dinosaur tech. Anything that is actually using the advanced Web technologies are not in the domain of SEO, stuff like true web apps like Figma, Google Docs let's say. At best, you can index list of content for those but that list could have been a JS-free HTML rendered by PHP.