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>> We too often get lost in our tech bubble A lot of the criticism of generative AI comes from techies though. I am one of them. I know there's plenty of other

>> We too often get lost in our tech bubble A lot of the criticism of generative AI comes from techies though. I am one of them. I know there's plenty of others, on HN certainly, I think also on Twitter. Personally, similar to your stronger case, I've now crossed a line where I find it more likely that generative AI will crash and burn and leave people shaking their heads at the misconceived notions of "making the world a better place" (the techno-utopias you say). We've had a year of crazy hype about GPT-4 and I still can't figure out what Gen AI is going to be good for, other than letting people rip off creatives, for fun or a very limited amount of profit; or for flooding academic venues with auto-generated work that will bog down the whole process of science.

danielbln 3y ago
You're a techie and can't find legitimate usecases for GenAI? That honestly says more about you than it does GenAI. From coding to chat-with-your-data to all sorts of general data/text transformations, there is so much there. Don't get me wrong, there are absolutely negative externalities, but if you can't see the useful cases as well then you're deliberately blinding yourself.
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brucethemoose2 3y ago
There's a middle ground between utopia and scam-tech. Generative AI is a powerful tool this very second, and is accelerating at an incredible rate. It seems pretty obvious that its going to automate tons of the white collar workforce. The hype will crash, no doubt, but its not going quietly into the night, nor is it zombifying like some other hyped tech. Anyway, I view the whole AI vs anti AI debate as a distraction. Its coming, like it or not. The significant question is who will be in control... Will AI be local, distributed among small providers, or concentrated in a few pseudo monopolies?
phillipcarter 3y ago
> We've had a year of crazy hype about GPT-4 and I still can't figure out what Gen AI is going to be good for Natural language interfaces to perform business-specific tasks, in concert with a UI to tweak things after generation, is the current killer use case in enterprise software, and it's exactly what's been built (and is being built). OpenAI's 1B ARR isn't just from people who pay for ChatGPT+.

danielbln 3y ago

You're a techie and can't find legitimate usecases for GenAI? That honestly says more about you than it does GenAI. From coding to chat-with-your-data to all sorts of general data/text transformations, there is so much there. Don't get me wrong, there are absolutely negative externalities, but if you can't see the useful cases as well then you're deliberately blinding yourself.

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brucethemoose2 3y ago

There's a middle ground between utopia and scam-tech. Generative AI is a powerful tool this very second, and is accelerating at an incredible rate. It seems pretty obvious that its going to automate tons of the white collar workforce. The hype will crash, no doubt, but its not going quietly into the night, nor is it zombifying like some other hyped tech. Anyway, I view the whole AI vs anti AI debate as a distraction. Its coming, like it or not. The significant question is who will be in control... Will AI be local, distributed among small providers, or concentrated in a few pseudo monopolies?

phillipcarter 3y ago

> We've had a year of crazy hype about GPT-4 and I still can't figure out what Gen AI is going to be good for Natural language interfaces to perform business-specific tasks, in concert with a UI to tweak things after generation, is the current killer use case in enterprise software, and it's exactly what's been built (and is being built). OpenAI's 1B ARR isn't just from people who pay for ChatGPT+.