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> For every child you don't have, your government will import one. Source? In the US green cards are capped per country of origin. > Our borders are undefende

> For every child you don't have, your government will import one. Source? In the US green cards are capped per country of origin. > Our borders are undefended. Our coffers are open for the pillaging. We don't seem to care. Which borders are undefended? How are our coffers open to pillaging?

anon291 3y ago
> Which borders are undefended? When someone enters illegally through the Southern border, ICE issues them a court date and basically zero show up. Most simply overstay. That's an 'undefended' border. If the border is not undefended, who is showing up in New York, Chicago, etc?
- paulryanrogers 3y ago
  Such immigrants would still face other headwinds, such as being deported if arrested or caught, being unable to work most jobs, denied access to many social services, etc. ICE orders against them can also close doors in the future. Border guards found to have immigrated illegally as unknowing children have been stripped of their jobs and faced deportation. While not an iron curtain of 5m+ cement walls and machine guns, that's hardly what I'd call undefended. Also, being a nation of (almost exclusively recent) immigrants I find this 'replacement' retoric hypocritical and ironic.
  - anon291 3y ago
    I have not used 'replacement' rhetoric. So stop it. > that's hardly what I'd call undefended Sounds undefended to me. At the point where you're saying "You can't do this within America" you've already conceded the point that they've ... entered America, which is the definition of immigration.
- tptacek 3y ago
  Refugees with temporary protected status, overwhelmingly. ICE has no authority to do anything with the people showing up in Chicago.
  - anon291 3y ago
    ICE may not, but the federal government has every right to regulate immigration, including defending a border to make sure people don't arrive without papers to begin with.

anon291 3y ago

> Which borders are undefended? When someone enters illegally through the Southern border, ICE issues them a court date and basically zero show up. Most simply overstay. That's an 'undefended' border. If the border is not undefended, who is showing up in New York, Chicago, etc?

paulryanrogers 3y ago
Such immigrants would still face other headwinds, such as being deported if arrested or caught, being unable to work most jobs, denied access to many social services, etc. ICE orders against them can also close doors in the future. Border guards found to have immigrated illegally as unknowing children have been stripped of their jobs and faced deportation. While not an iron curtain of 5m+ cement walls and machine guns, that's hardly what I'd call undefended. Also, being a nation of (almost exclusively recent) immigrants I find this 'replacement' retoric hypocritical and ironic.
- anon291 3y ago
  I have not used 'replacement' rhetoric. So stop it. > that's hardly what I'd call undefended Sounds undefended to me. At the point where you're saying "You can't do this within America" you've already conceded the point that they've ... entered America, which is the definition of immigration.
tptacek 3y ago
Refugees with temporary protected status, overwhelmingly. ICE has no authority to do anything with the people showing up in Chicago.
- anon291 3y ago
  ICE may not, but the federal government has every right to regulate immigration, including defending a border to make sure people don't arrive without papers to begin with.